Bunny hopping is not cheating...
Its abusing a "hard-to-fix" bug that's being overused and called a "skill".
well its takes skill to learn ill give you that but its not the right why the game mode was meant to be played. I could also spin it around and say that if i found out that if a GR hopped and walked at the same time that they could always see cloaked ghost no matter what they did, now inst that cheating?
now i not going to say that its the game mode imposable, only it makes me very madding when a GROUP of bhoppers complain that they cant kill (even when they have axes and noise down for everything) you cause hes has 200$ 7.1 surround sound headphones and is using a xm1014. and vote kick you for hacking or not agreeing that bhopping is a "skill".
now if is a skill it will say it was one of the ability's the ghost team has, but it doesn't and every patch that they have posted so far has made bhopping much more difficult to do right.
I am not going to call people who use bhopping anything but cheapskates, or for someone who gos full ****** on me a thickheaded.
and if you want to talk in person i have a ventrilo server i may post info for.
well its takes skill to learn ill give you that but its not the right why the game mode was meant to be played. I could also spin it around and say that if i found out that if a GR hopped and walked at the same time that they could always see cloaked ghost no matter what they did, now inst that cheating?
now i not going to say that its the game mode imposable, only it makes me very madding when a GROUP of bhoppers complain that they cant kill (even when they have axes and noise down for everything) you cause hes has 200$ 7.1 surround sound headphones and is using a xm1014. and vote kick you for hacking or not agreeing that bhopping is a "skill".
now if is a skill it will say it was one of the ability's the ghost team has, but it doesn't and every patch that they have posted so far has made bhopping much more difficult to do right.
I am not going to call people who use bhopping anything but cheapskates, or for someone who gos full ****** on me a thickheaded.
and if you want to talk in person i have a ventrilo server i may post info for.
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A bug is by definition something unintentional which will be fixed, with great attempts to do so.
It won't be fixed. Ever. Its not a bug.
Side note: 7.1 surround won't help you in CF, since it only emulates at best.
The game produces nothing but stereo. -
A bug is by definition something unintentional which will be fixed, with great attempts to do so.
It won't be fixed. Ever. Its not a bug.
No. A bug is an unintentional result from "bad" coding. There doesn't have to be any intent to fix it in order for it to still be a bug. Seriously? Is this the kind of logic they teach in school today? -
No. A bug is an unintentional result from "bad" coding. There doesn't have to be any intent to fix it in order for it to still be a bug. Seriously? Is this the kind of logic they teach in school today?
that is 100% true BUT, i dont think its a bug i think its a bug just a oversight.
and prove to me that they wont fix it?
give me a link to a announcement that staited that its not a bug and not going to be fixed?
or give me a game developer stating that its not a bug.
Ive searched hard and found non.
*edit* oh and even if CF is only stereo 7.1 headphones are WAY better then 2.1. -
Our understanding is that it wasn't intentionally implemented, however I feel that its safe to assume that the coders were aware of the physics in a game they made.No. A bug is an unintentional result from "bad" coding. There doesn't have to be any intent to fix it in order for it to still be a bug. Seriously? Is this the kind of logic they teach in school today? -
Z8 has nothing to do with the development of this game.
This game has been around for years. Bunnyhopping has always been in it.
If they wanted to fix it, they would have, as visibility could be invoked by velocity rather then what they currently define as movement. -
Z8 has nothing to do with the development of this game.
This game has been around for years. Bunnyhopping has always been in it.
If they wanted to fix it, they would have, as visibility could be invoked by velocity rather then what they currently define as movement.
This is the way I think of the MM boosting. It's been in other versions of crossfire forever, why patch it? Not really glitch, just "team work".
If you patch bhop, think of everyone that's going to quit. IMO, BHOP is the only way GM will be fair. GR's have guns, the aid of sound and sight, while ghost have a melee weapon, and must be sneaky. If they're too slow, breath will be heard, too quick, footsteps are heard. Bhop is fair. -
Well, the GMs changed the bhop once and a lot of people starting QQing on the forums and next patch it was fixed! So I'm guessing it ISN'T a bug and the GMs just wanted to help the ghost team win. It's hard to win if no one bhops since it's SO easy to pinpoint.
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The only time I recall bhop being changed, was when we got VN physics - which we still have.EmoPikachu wrote: »Well, the GMs changed the bhop once and a lot of people starting QQing on the forums and next patch it was fixed! So I'm guessing it ISN'T a bug and the GMs just wanted to help the ghost team win. It's hard to win if no one bhops since it's SO easy to pinpoint.
Talking closed beta? -
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GeneralRex wrote: »Bhop, was orignally a glitch. Then the GM's saw it as a bit more of a fun way to play it. You can't just run straight at someone full seen with a knife expecting not to die if someone can aim.
Why are you stupid? The GMs didn't make any decisions regarding whether or not to change/keep bunnyhopping.
"We don't decide what this game will receive, that's the developers' jobs."
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Why are you stupid? The GMs didn't make any decisions regarding whether or not to change/keep bunnyhopping.
"We don't decide what this game will receive, that's the developers' jobs."
Or does that only apply to the bad things CF gets?
Well lets look at the quote shall we? "We don't decide what this game will receive." True they have little power over what is implanted, but that doesn't mean that they can't ask for something to stay, or give them something to look at to try. I only remember this about the bhop because it once was posted by a mod or Saidin. But, the GM's got us X-trap, after a long while of trying. Just because they don't directly choose what goes in, doesn't mean they can't suggest what happens, even if it has low effect. They're the ones here with the community and know what they want. So this is why the flaming of Z8 is stupid sometimes. The GM's are hardworking, and try, but they can't get everything when we want. -
GeneralRex wrote: »Well lets look at the quote shall we? "We don't decide what this game will receive." True they have little power over what is implanted, but that doesn't mean that they can't ask for something to stay, or give them something to look at to try. I only remember this about the bhop because it once was posted by a mod or Saidin. But, the GM's got us X-trap, after a long while of trying. Just because they don't directly choose what goes in, doesn't mean they can't suggest what happens, even if it has low effect. They're the ones here with the community and know what they want. So this is why the flaming of Z8 is stupid sometimes. The GM's are hardworking, and try, but they can't get everything when we want.
Rofl. The other asian versions had the B-Hop physics patch/change before we did, and yet you say that OUR GMs cause it?
K then. -
Rofl. The other asian versions had the B-Hop physics patch/change before we did, and yet you say that OUR GMs cause it?
K then.
I'm only saying what has been said previously in other threads. Ones that people can't read before they post, and I don't know why. Don't shoot the messenger. -
GeneralRex wrote: »I'm only saying what has been said previously in other threads. Ones that people can't read before they post, and I don't know why. Don't shoot the messenger.
Just because people chose to ignore obvious bull**** doesn't mean they don't read it. I read the Bible, but I personally think it's bull****.
But then again you wouldn't understand that, you bend over quite easily for Z8, so there's no point in trying to rationalize with you. -
How does not reading something and making more un-needed things about it, relate to finding something stupid? Look around the forums, people can't even post in the correct sections, hence the Z8Games Forum Suggestions section. You can keep this thread clean you know. If you want to talk, bring it to XFire, PM, or Vent. All I've said is what's been said in the past. So if you don't like it, you can atleast keep it civil.
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GeneralRex wrote: »How does not reading something and making more un-needed things about it, relate to finding something stupid? Look around the forums, people can't even post in the correct sections, hence the Z8Games Forum Suggestions section. You can keep this thread clean you know. If you want to talk, bring it to XFire, PM, or Vent. All I've said is what's been said in the past. So if you don't like it, you can atleast keep it civil.
This isn't "un-needed," it's to try and make you not stupid anymore.
Obviously that won't happen :O
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