Is the knife really that bad?
I hear lots of people say the other melee weps are OP'd.. this true? I do decent with the knife but tend to get beat out by other melee weps with long range. I dont play alot of knife only matches though. The axe has the right click one shot to the body and left click to the head is insta death., and the shovel has the lag kill and right click anywhere on the body kill. Im not sure about the katana I have only faced a few people with them. But if I can make them miss with there right click its game over for them. Long range though. VS all this the knife doesnt seem that great.. but is it really that bad? its faster then the other weps isnt it?
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The shovel isn't OPed, its bugged. There is a huge delay between the hit registration and the animation, making it impossible to properly dodge the shovel. If they fix that bug, then its just a melee weapon that is slow but powerful.
The katana in Ghostmode, however, I agree. It has an even better reach than the shovel. You can hold down your 1 hit attack, allowing for easy well timed attacks. And last, but not least, once adjusted to the new weight, bunny hopping becomes easier than with any other melee weapon.
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try 1-slashing the head. knife insta kill.
well honestly nowadays i just do 80 or 90, but ,maybe helmet has something to do with that i dunno.
One knifeslash to the head is 90 dmg if the person aint wearing armour. Idk about armour tho.. -
Lolli_Roger wrote: »The shovel isn't OPed, its bugged. There is a huge delay between the hit registration and the animation, making it impossible to properly dodge the shovel. If they fix that bug, then its just a melee weapon that is slow but powerful.
The katana in Ghostmode, however, I agree. It has an even better reach than the shovel. You can hold down your 1 hit attack, allowing for easy well timed attacks. And last, but not least, once adjusted to the new weight, bunny hopping becomes easier than with any other melee weapon.
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Sorry, but I disagree completely.
With all due respect of course. -
Lolli_Roger wrote: »The shovel isn't OPed, its bugged. There is a huge delay between the hit registration and the animation, making it impossible to properly dodge the shovel. If they fix that bug, then its just a melee weapon that is slow but powerful.
The katana in Ghostmode, however, I agree. It has an even better reach than the shovel. You can hold down your 1 hit attack, allowing for easy well timed attacks. And last, but not least, once adjusted to the new weight, bunny hopping becomes easier than with any other melee weapon.
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wow really? thanks for the info
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MisterSmexy wrote: »Sorry, but I disagree completely.
With all due respect of course.
Disagree all you want, but its true. If there wasn't a delay between the hit register and the animated swing of the shovel then it wouldn't be striking you will your opponent's character is still holding it above his head.
As for the katana. It may just be my experience, but after I figured out what holding down my secondary attack did for my bunny hopping and adjusted my rhythm, my bunny hopping became more flawless than before.Well, wouldn't that mean that the shovel is over powered because of the bug?
No, because if the animation was in sync with the hit register, then anyone could easily overcome the power of the shovel's secondary attack, because you would get your attack in while the shovel is held behind the opponent's head, or dodge is before it comes down.
Also the problem with the shovel is that the hit register goes from side-to-side, while the animation goes top-to-bottom. Meaning that the animation fools you into side-stepping the attack. Which is useless, because a side-to-side attack can't be side-stepped.
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Sometimes I hate the knife...
Sometimes I love it
Because sometimes I die with 1 hit with the knife, and sometimes I kill with 1 hit.
Makes me wonder if the Axe or Shovel are even worth it. Knife should be stronger than a shovel too. 100 damage to the legs? Seriously? -
Propeller_pun wrote: »I hear lots of people say the other melee weps are OP'd.. this true? I do decent with the knife but tend to get beat out by other melee weps with long range. I dont play alot of knife only matches though. The axe has the right click one shot to the body and left click to the head is insta death., and the shovel has the lag kill and right click anywhere on the body kill. Im not sure about the katana I have only faced a few people with them. But if I can make them miss with there right click its game over for them. Long range though. VS all this the knife doesnt seem that great.. but is it really that bad? its faster then the other weps isnt it?
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Propeller_pun wrote: »I hear lots of people say the other melee weps are OP'd.. this true? I do decent with the knife but tend to get beat out by other melee weps with long range. I dont play alot of knife only matches though. The axe has the right click one shot to the body and left click to the head is insta death., and the shovel has the lag kill and right click anywhere on the body kill. Im not sure about the katana I have only faced a few people with them. But if I can make them miss with there right click its game over for them. Long range though. VS all this the knife doesnt seem that great.. but is it really that bad? its faster then the other weps isnt it?
Katana is bad using left click, either 2-3 slashes to kill, and right click is 1 hit to any part of the body. -
Lolli_Roger wrote: »The shovel isn't OPed, its bugged. There is a huge delay between the hit registration and the animation, making it impossible to properly dodge the shovel. If they fix that bug, then its just a melee weapon that is slow but powerful.
The katana in Ghostmode, however, I agree. It has an even better reach than the shovel. You can hold down your 1 hit attack, allowing for easy well timed attacks. And last, but not least, once adjusted to the new weight, bunny hopping becomes easier than with any other melee weapon.
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Im preeeeetty sure if i got hit in the legs with a shovel id live. -
Knife isn't "bad". It just requires skill, which many players unfortunately don't have.
Arena 2, heading to the right side (the ladder is further from you on this side), I jump clean over to near the ladder where an enemy is going up...weak strike hit's the person in the head 2 ROUNDS IN A ROW...90 dmg. I then have to make my way up there to face 2 shovel users and a betch Katana...
90 dmg is 90 dmg. -
LoveMyKnife wrote: »Im preeeeetty sure if i got hit in the legs with a shovel id live.And I'm pretty sure that when I would sever the major artery in your legs, using the sharp end of a field shovel, you would bleed to death in a matter of minutes.
A real field shovel is as sharp as an axe, and can take off an arm, a leg, or a head in a single blow, abide you possess the strength of an average soldier.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIlceAZBRdALoveMyKnife wrote: »Im preeeeetty sure if i got hit in the legs with a shovel id live.
She's always right.
Learn to accept it.
OT:Lolli_Roger wrote: »And I'm pretty sure that when I would sever the major artery in your legs, using the sharp end of a field shovel, you would bleed to death in a matter of minutes.
A real field shovel is as sharp as an axe, and can take off an arm, a leg, or a head in a single blow, abide you possess the strength of an average soldier.
Knife is not bad.
It just reqs. skill. -
I don't know... Perhaps it does require skill. But when I have axe, I would get atleast two times as many kills than with a knife. Slashing to the head is easier with an axe, too, I think.
Maybe I underestimated the RL field shovel's power... but still. It doesn't make sense that you can get a double or triple kill in one swing with it. And its animation is in dire need of fixing. It takes away the most critical aspect of fighting with melee weapons: anticipating opponents' moves.
So with the shovel we have now, any monkey could kill someone with it. It's OP. Killing someone in one hit anywhere on the body (yes, even the feet) seems unfair to me. Chest, fine. Basically, noobs use shovels to make up for their lack of skill with any other melee weapon.
I haven't really seen many, but it seems that katanas are the same as shovel damage-wise, and they don't glitch.
Thats why i hate it so much 
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