Just throwing an idea out for discussion. I'm bored.
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Imaginative wrote: »M4, AK, AWM only should be the better options.
M700 is very unreliable.
You are missing the point of the bare essentials: The rifle and sniper rifle given to you, M16 and M700. The only extra items are the MP5 for an SMG, balanced sidearms, and standard grenades.
With more weapons, especially the AWM, that takes the fun out of it. No weapon I have listen can to a 1-shot kill to the chest, such as the AWM you suggested. -
Fallen_Hero wrote: »You are missing the point of the bare essentials: The rifle and sniper rifle given to you, M16 and M700. The only extra items are the MP5 for an SMG, balanced sidearms, and standard grenades.
With more weapons, especially the AWM, that takes the fun out of it. No weapon I have listen can to a 1-shot kill to the chest, such as the AWM you suggested.
You need reliable snipers to have an organized gameplay. Having 1 sniper per team as support is essential and you can't do that effectively with an m700. -
Imaginative wrote: »You need reliable snipers to have an organized gameplay. Having 1 sniper per team as support is essential and you can't do that effectively with an m700.
1) I am having 2 M700 snipers per team.
2) It can still be organized without the use of an AWM. Seriously?
3) This is meant for fun. Did you get the memo? -
Imaginative wrote: »You need reliable snipers to have an organized gameplay. Having 1 sniper per team as support is essential and you can't do that effectively with an m700.
Maybe for extremely linear strats... Learn to adjust.
5 rifles is sometimes just as if not more effective in scrims in cf. Don't belive me then we can 5v5 with all rifles on my side and no scope limit for your team to test your theory. Hell you can even choose which 5 I use.
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Maybe for extremely linear strats... Learn to adjust.
5 rifles is sometimes just as if not more effective in scrims in cf. Don't belive me then we can 5v5 with all rifles on my side and no scope limit for your team to test your theory. Hell you can even choose which 5 I use.
Yes we already did that and won on UK server and lost 22:15 on Echo. I'm just saying, you aren't going very far with the m700. -
The only other weapons would be the M16 and MP5. I could get very far with 2 M700's on my team. Where are you getting that you couldn't get very far?
Just about everyone, up until you, thinks this would be fun. Why does it matter if you don't get very far anyways? It's for fun. Come outside your little CF comfort zone. This isn't meant to be 100% competitive.
Also, if you don't like the idea, then you don't have to play. It's that simple. I won't force you, believe me. -
Imaginative wrote: »Yes we already did that and won on UK server and lost 22:15 on Echo. I'm just saying, you aren't going very far with the m700.
Just because your team is unable to adapt to obstacles such as playing without a one hit scope, doesn't mean that you've made a valid point.
Nonetheless I shall propose a new offer...
Minty will m700 and my other 4 players will rifle, once again your team will have no awm limit or wepon restrictions. I am giving you a chance to prove your point, but can assure you that you won't like the outcome! xfire is 2bLitzd... ready when you are. -
Just because your team is unable to adapt to obstacles such as playing without a one hit scope, doesn't mean that you've made a valid point.
Nonetheless I shall propose a new offer...
Minty will m700 and my other 4 players will rifle, once again your team will have no awm limit or wepon restrictions. I am giving you a chance to prove your point, but can assure you that you won't like the outcome! xfire is 2bLitzd... ready when you are.
I don't get it, you used your main team against us with WOGL rules and managed to do break it even. How is having a worst gear make you better against us? Invalid logic perhaps.
We are perfectly fine about adapting, because most times we all rifle, I was just providing a suggestion. -
Imaginative wrote: »I don't get it, you used your main team against us with WOGL rules and managed to do break it even. How is having a worst gear make you better against us? Invalid logic perhaps.
We are perfectly fine about adapting, because most times we all rifle, I was just providing a suggestion.
Your suggestion was presented as an arguement, trying to discredit a rule/weapon format that was created for a balanced and FUN playing alternative. The fact that your team usually all rifles only suggests that you would not have a problem with this type of game play. If you are not kean on what he is considering, then I suggest you do something more productive like learn proper english(very useful these days). Perhaps you ''managed to do break it even'' against us once, but if we are playing to prove a point I garuntee you a different outcome. Once again my offer stands... -
Fallen_Hero wrote: »EXHIBIT A
EXHIBIT B
So please tell me how those two statements agree with each other? So most times you all rifle, but sniper support is essential? Hmmmmmmm :-/
Did I miss something?
Must be all that perfectly fine adapting they do... -
Your suggestion was presented as an arguement, trying to discredit a rule/weapon format that was created for a balanced and FUN playing alternative. The fact that your team usually all rifles only suggests that you would not have a problem with this type of game play. If you are not kean on what he is considering, then I suggest you do something more productive like learn proper english(very useful these days). Perhaps you ''managed to do break it even'' against us once, but if we are playing to prove a point I garuntee you a different outcome. Once again my offer stands...
Glad to know roth is a hypocrite. Please check your post before recommending others to learn proper english. I was simply expressing my oppinion regarding this subject, you turned it into an argument. If your ego was smaller then it wouldn't be an argument.
So in the scrims you played against us weren't you trying to prove the point you can still own in UK server? I hope not, because you failed at it. -
Imaginative wrote: »Glad to know roth is a hypocrite. Please check your post before recommending others to learn proper english. I was simply expressing my oppinion regarding this subject, you turned it into an argument. If your ego was smaller then it wouldn't be an argument.
So in the scrims you played against us weren't you trying to prove the point you can still own in UK server? I hope not, because you failed at it.
EXHIBIT A
Imaginative wrote: »You need reliable snipers to have an organized gameplay. Having 1 sniper per team as support is essential and you can't do that effectively with an m700.
EXHIBIT BImaginative wrote: »We are perfectly fine about adapting, because most times we all rifle, I was just providing a suggestion.
So please tell me how those two statements agree with each other? So most times you all rifle, but sniper support is essential? Hmmmmmmm :-/
Did I miss something or are you a complete moron? Please leave my thread. You have no use here. All you are doing is causing trouble. -
Fallen_Hero wrote: »EXHIBIT A
EXHIBIT B
So please tell me how those two statements agree with each other? So most times you all rifle, but sniper support is essential? Hmmmmmmm :-/
Did I miss something or are you completely moronic? Please leave my thread. You have no use here. All you are doing is causing trouble.
I was speaking in general not particularly. To most teams it is.
If you are not open to suggestions then why post a thread at all? For everyone to congratulate you on your great idea?Must be all that perfectly fine adapting they do...
Kudos on the sarcasm. -
Imaginative wrote: »I was speaking in general not particularly. To most teams it is.
If you are not open to suggestions then why post a thread at all? For everyone to congratulate you on your great idea?
I am open to suggestions. But you suggested changing the ENTIRE point of the event. That completely contradicts what I was trying to do. Bringing in the M4, AK, and 1-shot AWM takes away from the challenge of the event. I'm open to suggestions RELEVANT to the overall idea, not changing the entire thing. -
No, you have managed to overlook the issue.
M16 is a 1 hit kill head shot from most ranges, but is some what difficult to spray/burst with.
M700 is only a 1 hit kill head shot, and does 80ish damage from the majority of other ranges.
P228 is like 70/80 damage head shots, or something not sure but its a 2 hit headshot kill.
MP5 is 100% box damage, 2 hit kill head shot, fast reload, easy to spray etc.
Point 1: If you allow the MP5, everyone will be using it.
Point 2: Glock is pointless if the P228 is allowed. Also the Glock costs a lot, it makes more sense to simply allow tht P228. Or to not allow any sidearms.
Points 3: M16 is decent, I could see teams running with 5 m16's and zero m700s. That being said its pointless.
In the end the only point the matters is number 1. And the stuff about combat fps its not exactly related.
ur a dumb ass, sure m16 is 1 hit headshot, but isnt nearly every single gun like that? every one mp5? rediculous, it has absolutly no range, pistols are personal preference,
IMAGINATIVE, GET THE **** OUT OF THIS THREAD AND STOP TROLLING, NO BODY CARES WHAT U THINK CAUSE UR IDEAS ARE STUPID, IT DOESNT MATTER IF M700 WONT TAKE U VERY FAR, 80 CHEST DAMAGE, IS PLENTY ENOUGH FOR A TEAMATE OR SOMETHING TO FINISH THEM OFF, AND IF U STILL DONT LIKE IT, BE A PRO AND HEADSHOT,
anywayss i support this thread, its always been my dream to make a light weapons modes like: uzi, pistols, mp7 only. this is as close as it gets. ignore these ppl who think their so much better then us, and get somewhere with this idea -
Fallen_Hero wrote: »I am open to suggestions. But you suggested changing the ENTIRE point of the event. That completely contradicts what I was trying to do. Bringing in the M4, AK, and 1-shot AWM takes away from the challenge of the event. I'm open to suggestions RELEVANT to the overall idea, not changing the entire thing.
I read all the other posts and everyone that didn't share the same oppinion as you, you didn't even consider their oppinion and asked them to leave. With that attitude you are not going far.
What's the challenge of this event? Playing with under-used gear? -
I approve of your enthusiasm. Lol. But I'd like to get this thread back under control. Both Cypher and Imaginative have their own opinions and suggestions, which is to be understood. Everyone does. However, suggesting new weapons that take away from the "Bare essentials" theme, is not what I had in mind.
Imaginative, my apologies on being rude. I appreciate your suggestions. If you have any that stick with the overall theme, i.e. M16, MP5, M700, sidearms, standard grenades only. I'm very open to suggestions.
The point is to have fun with something different than the general game play of Cross Fire. TO HAVE FUN is the point. The point is TO HAVE FUN. Should I say it again? Please stop. If you don't like the idea of "under-used gear" as you like to call it, then don't participate. It's that simple. Also, to my knowledge only you and Cypher have presented negative points. I have not ignored anyone. Get your facts straight please. -
1of300sparta wrote: »ur a dumb ass, sure m16 is 1 hit headshot, but isnt nearly every single gun like that? every one mp5? rediculous, it has absolutly no range, pistols are personal preference,
IMAGINATIVE, GET THE **** OUT OF THIS THREAD AND STOP TROLLING, NO BODY CARES WHAT U THINK CAUSE UR IDEAS ARE STUPID, IT DOESNT MATTER IF M700 WONT TAKE U VERY FAR, 80 CHEST DAMAGE, IS PLENTY ENOUGH FOR A TEAMATE OR SOMETHING TO FINISH THEM OFF, AND IF U STILL DONT LIKE IT, BE A PRO AND HEADSHOT,
anywayss i support this thread, its always been my dream to make a light weapons modes like: uzi, pistols, mp7 only. this is as close as it gets. ignore these ppl who think their so much better then us, and get somewhere with this idea
You think insulting people with more competitive experience and that have been playing this game since it started is going to make anyone take you seriously? No.
No one here thinks they are better than you, we are just offering suggestions, you can disagree with them but atleast respect them.
No one here ever insulted you so you have no reason to do so. -
Fallen_Hero wrote: »I approve of your enthusiasm. Lol. But I'd like to get this thread back under control. Both Cypher and Imaginative have their own opinions and suggestions, which is to be understood. Everyone does. However, suggesting new weapons that take away from the "Bare essentials" theme, is not what I had in mind.
Imaginative, my apologies on being rude. I appreciate your suggestions. If you have any that stick with the overall theme, i.e. M16, MP5, M700, sidearms, standard grenades only. I'm very open to suggestions.
The point is to have fun with something different than the general game play of Cross Fire. TO HAVE FUN is the point. The point is TO HAVE FUN. Should I say it again? Please stop. If you don't like the idea of "under-used gear" as you like to call it, then don't participate. It's that simple. Also, to my knowledge only you and Cypher have presented negative points. I have not ignored anyone. Get your facts straight please.
They are not negative points, we just have different oppinions than you of what we consider fun or not. If you want to play with under-used gear then you are doing a good job.
I thought this was a fun way of having a competitive challenge since all these guns are available to everyone for free, hence my suggestion of using AWM, M4 and AK. Obviously I was wrong, so I apologize for that. -
The purpose of this is to do fun 5v5s.
Was he looking for competitive 5v5s, the gun layout would have been different.
Everyone has an M16 and an M700, which makes this very easy to organize without the "Oh my god I can't afford an M4, I have AK and AWM and two deagles already"-fuss.
Act accordingly. -
Imaginative wrote: »They are not negative points, we just have different oppinions than you of what we consider fun or not. If you want to play with under-used gear then you are doing a good job.
I thought this was a fun way of having a competitive challenge since all these guns are available to everyone for free, hence my suggestion of using AWM, M4 and AK. Obviously I was wrong, so I apologize for that.
It's all good. No need to get it out of hand. That goes for me too, I apologize for that. The only reason I threw the MP5 in there is to have some diversity between rifles and snipers. Kind of like having specialist areas. The X-Factor in an otherwise battle of the standard weapons given to you at the beginning. That is still under review. I may go with only M16 and M700 still. Of course there will be competitive elements involved, but the main point of this is to enjoy something a little different from PUG rules, WOGL rules, these rules, those rules. This is unique. That's all. I appreciate your suggestions. -
1of300sparta wrote: »eh....i guess i was rather rash in my judgement also, my apologies
Thank you for the maturity. I'm sure he'll appreciate that too. Now that the fights have been settled, we can get back to the topic at hand Thanks for the suggestions so far. -
Ok. I have decided on the weapon selection. To make it MUCH easier without a lot extra GP having to be spent, this is how it will be:
5 Man Teams
Weapons will be able to be used in either of two formats:
1) 3 M16's and 2 M700's
2) 3 M700's and 2 M16's
- Then user choice of P228, M9, Glock-18, Colt 1911
That is IT. No extra main weapons. Sidearms still apply. Lol. Only those two. If you don't like it, well, I guess I won't see your name on the list when I get it organized -
Fallen_Hero wrote: »Ok. I have decided on the weapon selection. To make it MUCH easier without a lot extra GP having to be spent, this is how it will be:
5 Man Teams
Weapons will be used in one of two formats:
1) 3 M16's and 2 M700's
2) 3 M700's and 2 M16's
- Then user choice of P228, M9, Glock-18, Colt 1911
That is IT. No extra main weapons. Sidearms still apply. Lol. Only those two. If you don't like it, well, I guess I won't see your name on the list when I get it organized
I support this.
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