Australian Servers: Evidence and Reasoning

If you wish to skip straight to the facts, go down to the ---
If you wish to tl;dr, skip to the Conclusion:. (very bottom)
IF YOU'RE AN AUSTRALIAN THAT WISHES TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT PLEASE BUMP!
IF YOU'RE AN AMERICAN THAT WANTS AUSSIES OUT OF YOUR HAIR PLEASE BUMP!
IF YOU'RE A BRIT, "Cup o' tea guvnah?"


Having played Crossfire for over a year and with that, long before the West Coast server was released I have a good deal of experience with having high ping. I'm not complaining, or ranting about the lack of an Australian server being detrimental on my gameplay, and I cannot say that in good conscience, for it would be an outright lie. I still manage to keep a definite positive KDR, having never reset it and having used the same account from the beginning. Before saying that there are already countless threads on this subject, take into account that nearly, if not ALL of them are simply "I'm tired of having high ping Z8Games make an Aussie server NOW", except with considerably worse spelling/grammar/etc and that I'm trying to provide intelligent reasoning behind my demands.

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What I'm aiming to provide with this topic is infallible reasoning that if Z8Games were to host an Australian server (or multiple Australian servers) they would only increase their already substantial profits. (Cause heck, they can't spend too much on our crappy servers can they? :P)

Australian Video Game Demographics
(anything in italics was added by me, anything between [ ]'s is a link to the above statements' source)

"Two-thirds of Australians play games. Just under half of gamers are women."
[First Line of Article]

"In 2008, 88% of Australian households have a device for playing computer games."
australiaserver.png
"Most households have one installed gaming device."
australiaserver2.png
However, that's a rather arbitrary statement, as from the above graph you can tell more households have MULTIPLE game devices, then those with one.
[Level 1 - Stage 1]

"The average age of computer game players in Australia is now over 30 years."
australiaserver3.png
30 year old people that work full time, have a considerable pay packet and are more then inclined to spend money on gaming, from the below graph you can see that a very considerable portion of gamers in Australia are employed full-time.
australiaserver4.png
"Most Australian gamers earn over $52,000 a year."
australiaserver5.png
[Level 2 - Stage 2]

"Most gamers player for an hour, or more, at a time."
australiaserver6.png
[Level 2 - Stage 3]

The Australian computer games industry is growing at more than 15% per year and conducted sales of AUD1.3 billion in 2007 according to GfK point of sale data.
Over 2 billion dollars in 2009.
[Last Page]

"15% of Australian Gamers prefer FPS games over all other genres."
australiaserver7.png
[Level 7 - Stage 2]

"90% of game households have PCs and these are used by most gamers."
"Among all media used in Australian households, the Internet is now the preferred medium for entertainment and leisure."
Note that this is in 2008, figures like this have been steadily increasing in the past years.
[Page 5 - Major Findings]

Conclusion: Australians spent over 2 billion dollars solely on the video game industry in 2009. Over two thirds of Australian's play video games, and 15% of them play FPS games, of these people 39% of them choose a computer as their gaming medium. Totalling a theoretical audience of 872,000 people, roughly three quarters of them playing a game for over an hour at a time, nearly half of them every day.

If I could get the ratio of paying Crossfire:NA players to non-paying Crossfire:NA players, and data on the average ZP bought etc, I could determine the theoretical profit Z8Games would make from this decision, but alas, I do not have those statistics and thus can do no such thing.

Closing Note: Most of this information was gathered from an independent study done by Bond University and compiled for the Interactive Entertainment Association of Australia. This is the third study of its kind since 2005 including two previously published studies: GamePlay Australia 2005 and Interactive Australia 2007, each including over 1600 households, bringing the total subjects used in this study to an approximate 20,000. This is essentially a four year study on video gaming habits in Australia. You can read it in it's entirety here.
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  • Most well thought out request on this subject I've seen lol

    good luck.
  • Max_Skillz wrote: »
    Most well thought out request on this subject I've seen lol

    good luck.

    Thanks Max. :P

    This is Trog (-[fX]*Trog) btw.
  • Very comprehensive post, I support Aussie servers all the way!! :D

    (Y)
  • TrogdorTB wrote: »
    Thanks Max. :P

    This is Trog (-[fX]*Trog) btw.

    No problem trog

    This is Max_Skillz leader of N.E.R.D btw.
  • I do not support this. I'd rather play UK server with 300ping. -inserts sarcasm-
  • PhucDuMa wrote: »
    I do not support this. I'd rather play UK server with 300ping. -inserts sarcasm-

    first I was like :O den I was like -_-

    *Slaps DuMa for confusalinging his post*
  • Max_Skillz wrote: »
    first I was like :O den I was like -_-

    *Slaps DuMa for confusalinging his post*

    LOL im quitting cf. kinda. im not gona play as much now. fken bullshyt ping spike p!ssing me off.
  • I too support an Aussie server. Good to see somebody putting effort into the logic and reasoning behind getting one, but I have a feeling your effort may be somewhat in vain.
  • Max_Skillz wrote: »
    first I was like :O den I was like -_-

    *Slaps DuMa for confusalinging his post*

    Last time I tried to make a serious post, it got locked because of spam (their way of avoiding an issue), so please keep it clean guiz. :)

    Normally I wouldn't care, but that first post took me like an hour to compile.
  • TrogdorTB wrote: »
    Last time I tried to make a serious post, it got locked because of spam (their way of avoiding an issue), so please keep it clean guiz. :)

    Normally I wouldn't care, but that first post took me like an hour to compile.

    more like 5hrs. :L
  • Spazbunny wrote: »
    I have a feeling your effort may be somewhat in vain.

    As do I, but you can't blame a guy for making a serious attempt, can you? D:
  • TrogdorTB wrote: »
    Last time I tried to make a serious post, it got locked because of spam (their way of avoiding an issue), so please keep it clean guiz. :)

    Normally I wouldn't care, but that first post took me like an hour to compile.

    Roger that
    TrogdorTB wrote: »
    If you wish to skip straight to the facts, go down to the ---
    If you wish to tl;dr, skip to the Conclusion:. (very bottom)
    IF YOU'RE AN AUSTRALIAN THAT WISHES TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT PLEASE BUMP!
    IF YOU'RE AN AMERICAN THAT WANTS AUSSIES OUT OF YOUR HAIR PLEASE BUMP!
    IF YOU'RE A BRIT, "Cup o' tea guvnah?"


    Closing Note: Most of this information was gathered from an independent study done by Bond University and compiled for the Interactive Entertainment Association of Australia. This is the third study of its kind since 2005 including two previously published studies: GamePlay Australia 2005 and Interactive Australia 2007, each including over 1600 households, bringing the total subjects used in this study to an approximate 20,000. This is essentially a four year study on video gaming habits in Australia. You can read it in it's entirety here.

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  • Max_Skillz wrote: »
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    Thank you for your support Max. :)

    Everybody else, learn from this guy!

    xD
  • Max_Skillz wrote: »
    Roger that



    isupportthispost.jpg

    the picture doesnt make sense. cept the words lol.
  • TrogdorTB wrote: »
    As do I, but you can't blame a guy for making a serious attempt, can you? D:

    Fair point. At least it's better than the randoms in game saying 'Aussie server coming out in a couple of weeks', pure facepalm material.
  • Spazbunny wrote: »
    Fair point. At least it's better than the randoms in game saying 'Aussie server coming out in a couple of weeks', pure facepalm material.

    I know right? And when you say "You're full of it." They're like "Yah [insert mod] said so!"
  • I have seen people suggesting a BR server to get them out of all the other servers but ffs we deserve it more then them.
  • I honestly see an Australia-based company picking up Crossfire before Z8Games do.

    Anyway. We won't add one. Fetch a tutorial for the versions closer to your location.
  • TrogdorTB wrote: »
    If you wish to skip straight to the facts, go down to the ---
    If you wish to tl;dr, skip to the Conclusion:. (very bottom)
    IF YOU'RE AN AUSTRALIAN THAT WISHES TO SHOW THEIR SUPPORT PLEASE BUMP!
    IF YOU'RE AN AMERICAN THAT WANTS AUSSIES OUT OF YOUR HAIR PLEASE BUMP!
    IF YOU'RE A BRIT, "Cup o' tea guvnah?"


    Having played Crossfire for over a year and with that, long before the West Coast server was released I have a good deal of experience with having high ping. I'm not complaining, or ranting about the lack of an Australian server being detrimental on my gameplay, and I cannot say that in good conscience, for it would be an outright lie. I still manage to keep a definite positive KDR, having never reset it and having used the same account from the beginning. Before saying that there are already countless threads on this subject, take into account that nearly, if not ALL of them are simply "I'm tired of having high ping Z8Games make an Aussie server NOW", except with considerably worse spelling/grammar/etc and that I'm trying to provide intelligent reasoning behind my demands.

    ---

    What I'm aiming to provide with this topic is infallible reasoning that if Z8Games were to host an Australian server (or multiple Australian servers) they would only increase their already substantial profits. (Cause heck, they can't spend too much on our crappy servers can they? :P)

    Australian Video Game Demographics
    (anything in italics was added by me, anything between [ ]'s is a link to the above statements' source)

    "Two-thirds of Australians play games. Just under half of gamers are women."
    [First Line of Article]

    "In 2008, 88% of Australian households have a device for playing computer games."
    australiaserver.png
    "Most households have one installed gaming device."
    australiaserver2.png
    However, that's a rather arbitrary statement, as from the above graph you can tell more households have MULTIPLE game devices, then those with one.
    [Level 1 - Stage 1]

    "The average age of computer game players in Australia is now over 30 years."
    australiaserver3.png
    30 year old people that work full time, have a considerable pay packet and are more then inclined to spend money on gaming, from the below graph you can see that a very considerable portion of gamers in Australia are employed full-time.
    australiaserver4.png
    "Most Australian gamers earn over $52,000 a year."
    australiaserver5.png
    [Level 2 - Stage 2]

    "Most gamers player for an hour, or more, at a time."
    australiaserver6.png
    [Level 2 - Stage 3]

    The Australian computer games industry is growing at more than 15% per year and conducted sales of AUD1.3 billion in 2007 according to GfK point of sale data.
    Over 2 billion dollars in 2009.
    [Last Page]

    "15% of Australian Gamers prefer FPS games over all other genres."
    australiaserver7.png
    [Level 7 - Stage 2]

    "90% of game households have PCs and these are used by most gamers."
    "Among all media used in Australian households, the Internet is now the preferred medium for entertainment and leisure."
    Note that this is in 2008, figures like this have been steadily increasing in the past years.
    [Page 5 - Major Findings]

    Conclusion: Australians spent over 2 billion dollars solely on the video game industry in 2009. Over two thirds of Australian's play video games, and 15% of them play FPS games, of these people 39% of them choose a computer as their gaming medium. Totalling a theoretical audience of 872,000 people, roughly three quarters of them playing a game for over an hour at a time, nearly half of them every day.

    If I could get the ratio of paying Crossfire:NA players to non-paying Crossfire:NA players, and data on the average ZP bought etc, I could determine the theoretical profit Z8Games would make from this decision, but alas, I do not have those statistics and thus can do no such thing.

    Closing Note: Most of this information was gathered from an independent study done by Bond University and compiled for the Interactive Entertainment Association of Australia. This is the third study of its kind since 2005 including two previously published studies: GamePlay Australia 2005 and Interactive Australia 2007, each including over 1600 households, bringing the total subjects used in this study to an approximate 20,000. This is essentially a four year study on video gaming habits in Australia. You can read it in it's entirety here.

    I liked how you brought this up, rather than moaning(like I did with UK server), you actually presented it well and that is more interesting to look at.

    I would support the aussie server, but I think G4Box is only licensed to put servers in US, Canada and UK only.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    I honestly see an Australia-based company picking up Crossfire before Z8Games do.

    Mmm. So I should do up a presentation and try and sell it off to a local game distributor?

    How do I go about contacting the original game developers? I have a way, but it may not be the best.
    [MOD]dot wrote: »
    Anyway. We won't add one. Fetch a tutorial for the versions closer to your location.

    You could of said why, I have heard some reasons, but I have no evidence supporting it. Could you tell me why you won't add one? Is it due to licensing issues?

    The closest version is Japan and, yes, I play it. 95 ping is considerably better then the 178 I get on West Coast server, but if that's what I get on CF:JP, I'd be cruising around 40 ping most likely on a local server. I lol'd cause you said "Fetch a tutorial" and I've made three of them (for China, Korea and Japan).
  • TrogdorTB wrote: »
    Mmm. So I should do up a presentation and try and sell it off to a local game distributor?

    How do I go about contacting the original game developers? I have a way, but it may not be the best.



    You could of said why, I have heard some reasons, but I have no evidence supporting it. Could you tell me why you won't add one? Is it due to licensing issues?

    The closest version is Japan and, yes, I play it. 95 ping is considerably better then the 178 I get on West Coast server, but if that's what I get on CF:JP, I'd be cruising around 40 ping most likely on a local server. I lol'd cause you said "Fetch a tutorial" and I've made three of them (for China, Korea and Japan).

    I can't advise you on how to take players from Z8.. But contacting the developers would theoretically work yes. They're G4Box. Of course they're unlikely to take you seriously.

    We can't add an Australian server due to legal issues - licensing, yes.


    I wouldn't know what you have and have not written, but if you've written one - use it.
  • [MOD]dot wrote: »
    I can't advise you on how to take players from Z8..
    I lol'd at this INCREDIBLY hard. Ridculously hard, the kind of laughing where it's like "Dude, stop laughing, you're an idiot." I'm lying, but it would equate to ROFL.
    [MOD]dot wrote: »
    But contacting the developers would theoretically work yes. They're G4Box. Of course they're unlikely to take you seriously.
    Well, maybe if I do it somewhat like I did in this thread? With the whole "You can make a bunch of money if you do this guiz." ploy?
    [MOD]dot wrote: »
    We can't add an Australian server due to legal issues - licensing, yes.
    I take it that means there's a snowball's chance in hell of a licensing revision?
    [MOD]dot wrote: »
    I wouldn't know what you have and have not written, but if you've written one - use it.
    I don't need to, I have an account on every distribution of Crossfire except PCF. :)
    I play Crossfire Japan a lot more then Crossfire NA&UK. I'm nearly the equivalent of silver bar on it, and I'm semi fluent in Japanese. So yeah.
  • TrogdorTB wrote: »
    I lol'd at this INCREDIBLY hard. Ridculously hard, the kind of laughing where it's like "Dude, stop laughing, you're an idiot." I'm lying, but it would equate to ROFL.


    Well, maybe if I do it somewhat like I did in this thread? With the whole "You can make a bunch of money if you do this guiz." ploy?


    I take it that means there's a snowball's chance in hell of a licensing revision?


    I don't need to, I have an account on every distribution of Crossfire except PCF. :)
    I play Crossfire Japan a lot more then Crossfire NA&UK. I'm nearly the equivalent of silver bar on it, and I'm semi fluent in Japanese. So yeah.
    I'm a mod, I don't know more about how the licensing process work then you do.
  • I support this.... how can I not?
    I like the way you went about this thread trog :D giving z8games facts and not just whining about the issue, you actually put effort into this and hopefully, just maybe they will consider an Aussie server! PLease let it be before 2012;)<---just kidding i dnt beleive in that bull ****
    peace. :D
  • I support this.... how can I not?
    I like the way you went about this thread trog :D giving z8games facts and not just whining about the issue, you actually put effort into this and hopefully, just maybe they will consider an Aussie server! PLease let it be before 2012;)<---just kidding i dnt beleive in that bull ****
    peace. :D

    There's licensing issues that stop them from doing it, however possibly this thread and enough community support could convince them to get it changed, if they can? I'm not even sure..
  • The bad thing in it, wether you reason or not, it's not gonna happen any soon. Z8 is not setting up a server for Aussies, sorry mates.

    EDIT: 1337'th post! I'm 1337!
  • And the reason why I'm petitioning so hard for this, even though I don't gain that much from it personally is because, seriously, WHY THE F*** NOT?

    The recent move they made adding a UK server, really set me off. Because they now service all of the modern western world, except Australia. I mean this is like RACISM.

    600px-Clash_of_Civilizations_map.png
    This is Huntington's map of major civilizations
    What constitutes Western civilization in his view is coloured dark blue.

    It's relatively commonly agreed upon, that's he is somewhat, if not entirely correct.
  • EMOxCORE wrote: »
    The bad thing in it, wether you reason or not, it's not gonna happen any soon. Z8 is not setting up a server for Aussies, sorry mates.

    1,337 post count!

    And is your avatar a B&W mixture of boxxy and che guevara?
  • TrogdorTB wrote: »
    There's licensing issues that stop them from doing it, however possibly this thread and enough community support could convince them to get it changed, if they can? I'm not even sure..

    I'm sure they could get licencing for Australia since nobody else has the rights as far as I know.
    From what I've gathered they have a ready market available and would be remiss if they didn't at least explore the option instead of outright dismissing it.
  • TrogdorTB wrote: »
    And the reason why I'm petitioning so hard for this, even though I don't gain that much from it personally is because, seriously, WHY THE F*** NOT?

    The recent move they made adding a UK server, really set me off. Because they now service all of the modern western world, except Australia. I mean this is like RACISM.

    600px-Clash_of_Civilizations_map.png
    This is Huntington's map of major civilizations
    What constitutes Western civilization in his view is coloured dark blue.

    It's relatively commonly agreed upon, that's he is somewhat, if not entirely correct.
    Nationalism you mean. Get the facts right there. And as I stated before, and as stated Saidin into the common suggestions, they have no plans to get a server. So basically, the thread is pointless, since Z8 won't do anything. But yeah =/ That's Z8 =/ ...

    Off Topic: Yeah, Boxxy Guevara roxx <3
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