Calling Euro Clans
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Scar Light - Accurate and powerful but limited to 30 bullets.
AK47 Gold + 8
AWM CAmo + 5
M4A1 CUS - 100% Silent
etc etc
A Scar L player vs a Scar L players = The best player wins.
A Team of Scar L players vs a Team of Scar L players = Team with best strats and application wins.
Quit your beef with the Scar L, if everyone used it, we would see trurly which teams and players are the best.
AWM-C is barely an advantage. Those 5 extra bullets in a competitive 5v5 game is completely irrelevant.
If 2 players have the same weapon not only skill determines who wins. There are several factors that influence it. Ping, FPS lag, gamesense and luck. To see who the better player is you need to have a lan, considering this won't happen anytime soon the person with better hardware will have an advantage.FamousFoxx wrote: »Scar light league, bah no real competition
but we do support the ESL gathers on our vent feel free to use it for a ESL gather.
Scar Light is only a skill against other players using a Scar light.
Famous
Yes let's complain about a GP weapon. Yet you allow 100% silent weapons such as the m4-c that can turn a highly intelligent player into a dominating ninja.FamousFoxx wrote: »Did you even read my post? seriously i had enough about your ignorance a Scar light does not "higher the bar" for competitive gameplay
WOWOWWOW BRAINS HARD TO GET.
Look at all those reactions that are ANTI scar light.
Look at our vent
Look at the community
Scar light is good for it's accuracy and weight. It highers the bar for competitiveness as more weapons are available making it more diverse. Scar light is a GP weapon, therefor everyone has an opportunity to get it and use it. Stop complaining about it just because you get owned in pubs by it.Agree !
S'L is for "kids" without skill ;3
Lol'ed.Afraid to show up in your vent? Meet the REAL EU community?
LOL
First off - 30-2 in ESL? Thanks, think ive "meeten n Beaten" enough of the EU community. Second - Sorry mate, it's bad enough im 23 and play FPS games, but you really want me to resolve to play them with random 15 year old german and dutch or american children?
No ta...
Thirdly, I have my own vent, with people my own age, and own intellect whom I have fun with as well as can put together something half descent.
Brains.... BRAINS?!?!? oh christ your so out your league here you have no idea lol!
Do you have have a masters?
No no... no Rufus... why even go or assume th...
ill stop.
This is clearly pointless, so lets end it with 2 simple things.
1. ROC EU ESL Team 5v5 any time, any place fox.
2. I promise you I will Scar L just for you, even though i'm an M4 player.
The End.
Well having a 30-2 score is not that hard when you have a stacked team tbh.FamousFoxx wrote: »Ok well , i respect your opinion i hope you respect mine.
ESL is open for every european clan / player
So is the European Pug Community
We should support each other there is no need for blocking any of those 2.
/case closed i would say.
Famous
" If you know your not gonna change anything its prety useless to argue"
ESL is competitive, the EPC is not. -
ESL is not only good because of the competition, but it used to be a nice place to hang around also, but nowadays there's just a huge lack of respect towards each other and tons more flaming about little things.
Don't see why you people are even discussing the SL thing, ESL is ESL. Don't compare it with another league, it's pointless.
Also, Kennedi, nice of you to swear with that disease, it just another example of how low some people can actually sink. It's a shame really, really thought you were a tad different from the rest.
I rest my case really, I'm glad my team participated in ESL, and we actually did not use the SL or SPOP even though some certain nobodies (huhu trenn) think that way, but the people in ESL are the ones that make ESL, and the people are ruining it for a longer time already.
"Because we care, c\_/" -
From this topic you van conclude the eu community divided to the bone , everyone has his own opinion and is free to do so. But let's not make this à flame thread.
ESL is competetive in my eyes, but im not joining it when the SL is still alloud ( my opinion)
EPC is ment to be competive and to be à funn place to come and meet other players from europe.
'So yeah we support the ESL gathers on our vent with there rules.
Most ESL players support EPC,
we obviously can't change people's opinion so there is no point to make this a 11 page flame/hate thread
I still wanna keep this community together ,
so you will see me attending more ESL gathers , and i hope to see you guy's at tommorows draft 21.00 GMT -
FamousFoxx wrote: »1. Scar light was in the game from the start i agree.
but it has been modified from the start of the game to so if you would compare a scar light this moment with a previous scar light there wil be a huge diffrence. also going back to the roots ZP was in the game from almos the start.
Haha, dude don't just pull random stuff out of your ass. I bought the SL the day it came out and played with it for a good 6 months and i just recently picked it up in order to break one to do the fun crab people glitch. i have also been vocal in the pug vent taking an anti-SL stance, the thing is like a ****ing lazer . There was never any change to the SL except for a sound change which people thought the gun has been nerfed.
The gun was never buffed, only had the sound changed 1 or 2 patches after its' initial release. But seriously (broad generic sweeping statement coming up) it is only the Polaks in the ESL that use the SL now.
DONT MAKE **** UP IN ORDER TO LEGITIMISE YOUR ****ING ARGUMENT YOU IGNORANT ASSHAT VAPID ****WIT ****. -
Trisso is Tris10000 I guess, right?
Ok, Dot this statement wasn't dedicated to you. It was regarded to Foxx to negligate his statement.
I respect other peoples' opinions, I also respect everyone's convictions, but if I see that someone picks up some foreign and starts arguing like it was his own, but doesn't have good arguments and at the end tries to fobb others with hyperbouls and sais a weapon is overpowered which isn't the fact.
Simple example: Imagine M4A1 regular used to be most powerful gun in the game before beta 1.0.3.4! It had biggest accuracy, lowest recoil, same damage as SL and you were able to spray the **** out of someone, but now the developer took the power of so many weapons by a simple click to make the people buy ZP weapons. What now? Shall we start complaining about Z8 ruining our gameplay and competitiveness?
I don't know what to add, but SL restriction is stupid in my eyes and on the other hand allow people use M4 Custom and let them become silent bhopping ninjas. Already forgot that Portuguese players are laggy by nature and this weapon is mostly used by Portos? Some porto jumps, shoots 6 bullets from his M4-C on the flight and kills 2 players, GG
PS: If these ZP weapons wouldn't bring so much improvement, like some of you argue (special regard to Foxx) why so many people buy them ? Just to waste some buck$ on that, or because they look nicer than regular weapons?
frid -
Bah... I give up.
Ill stick with ESL all the way, because that's the one place where the weapon rules are correct IMO and justified.
It's also the place that will give me the best competition and the closest games, thank god that the majority of teams use Scar L, because imagine how crappy and boring they would be without it.
At least I can try out new strats each game and make the most of teamwork that way.
You fellas stick to your +8 bullet spray guns, go wild. -
i thought about it yesterday night , and i came up with a question if we actually would ban the ZP weapons from the pugs/drafts ? would we get more support from ESL?
Probaly not.
im not gonna respond on this topic anymore freel free to argue with me on xfire (avr3x)
or on our vent.
Yea , still respect everyone for me this is just discussing hope you guys see it the same way.
PS.
Friday you know im ANTI ZP and ANTI SL -
ESL is not only good because of the competition, but it used to be a nice place to hang around also, but nowadays there's just a huge lack of respect towards each other and tons more flaming about little things.
Don't see why you people are even discussing the SL thing, ESL is ESL. Don't compare it with another league, it's pointless.
Also, Kennedi, nice of you to swear with that disease, it just another example of how low some people can actually sink. It's a shame really, really thought you were a tad different from the rest.
I rest my case really, I'm glad my team participated in ESL, and we actually did not use the SL or SPOP even though some certain nobodies (huhu trenn) think that way, but the people in ESL are the ones that make ESL, and the people are ruining it for a longer time already.
"Because we care, c\_/"
Het irriteert me gewoon mateloos dat mensen gelijk gaan flamen over iets anders.
BTW, het is niet ziektegerelateerd meer een krachtterm die mijn frustratie kan verwoorden.
Groet. -
Het irriteert me gewoon mateloos dat mensen gelijk gaan flamen over iets anders.
BTW, het is niet ziektegerelateerd meer een krachtterm die mijn frustratie kan verwoorden.
Groet.
It just annoys me no end that people are flaming right about something else.
BTW, it's not longer a disease related force term that can express my frustration.
Greetings
just 4 you kennedii
kisses jajaja 
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