CFCL Qualifier Rules Clarification
Just a few rules I would like to have some clarification on.
Section 7: Conduct/Action: Rule 12: The referee’s Final Decision shall be absolute and no objection will be accepted. -- So are all the referee's going to actually be capable or old competitive players? Because some referee's may be inclined to be biased to their favorite teams and or friends. Is there no appeal system to have an unjust ruling called, to have said referee bared from future events?
Section 7: Conduct/Action: Rule 2: Use of language or behavior that is obscene, vulgar, insulting, threatening, abusing, slandering, defaming, discriminatory or in any way objectionable. --- Is this only via the F2 function of public chat, or does VOIP/Stream recordings count as well? Just trying to make sure everything is crystal clear so no scummy people try to weasel wins.
Section 7.1(?) Anti-Cheat: Bullet 2-4: Proof of Anticheat. -- Correct me if I'm wrong, but do you guys not have back end access to check yourselves? I understand that it's easy to prove, but it's also relatively easy to fake.
Section 6.5: Subject to Disqualification: Rule 1: Moving by abnormal method (such as using a bug). --- Does this include Chinese walking, as that was not an intended feature?
With the current rule set, those are the only rules I have any sort of issues with. Mainly 1,2, and 4. 3 was just for clarification.
Now with some things I personally feel need to be Added and removed
Firstly, The 2.0 maps of Black Widow and Ankara have not been practiced, almost ever. They do have completely different strategic features from the base map versions they are based on, and having them thrust upon us without removal of the old is kind of silly.
Secondly, There needs to be a rule about pauses. I looked over and over, and see 0 mention of them. Tactical pauses are a key part of ANY sport, physical, mental, or eSport related.
Thirdly, Removal of the colored smokes. It kind of takes away from the integrity and professionalism of the competitive scene. Also people like me who are partially color blind (albeit I'm red-green), can have problems looking through them.
Finally, I would definitely like there not to be random seeding, as that can pit some of the best teams competing against each other right out the gate, such as ANIXIA v Instinct, Teamw0w vs Carbon, (etc). That doesn't allow the best teams through, rather who gets lucky. I understand that making a real seed is difficult with nothing to base it off of, but for after this singular event, SEEDING needs to be mandatory.
These are all my personal opinions as a long time player, vet, and eSports enthusiast. I'm not demanding these questions be answered/Clarified, or my suggestions be implemented, more of a conversation that needs to be had as our Community has shrunk exponentially over the course of the last 3 years.
Thanks,
Thornzberry,
Aka Bonita Thronz
Section 7: Conduct/Action: Rule 12: The referee’s Final Decision shall be absolute and no objection will be accepted. -- So are all the referee's going to actually be capable or old competitive players? Because some referee's may be inclined to be biased to their favorite teams and or friends. Is there no appeal system to have an unjust ruling called, to have said referee bared from future events?
Section 7: Conduct/Action: Rule 2: Use of language or behavior that is obscene, vulgar, insulting, threatening, abusing, slandering, defaming, discriminatory or in any way objectionable. --- Is this only via the F2 function of public chat, or does VOIP/Stream recordings count as well? Just trying to make sure everything is crystal clear so no scummy people try to weasel wins.
Section 7.1(?) Anti-Cheat: Bullet 2-4: Proof of Anticheat. -- Correct me if I'm wrong, but do you guys not have back end access to check yourselves? I understand that it's easy to prove, but it's also relatively easy to fake.
Section 6.5: Subject to Disqualification: Rule 1: Moving by abnormal method (such as using a bug). --- Does this include Chinese walking, as that was not an intended feature?
With the current rule set, those are the only rules I have any sort of issues with. Mainly 1,2, and 4. 3 was just for clarification.
Now with some things I personally feel need to be Added and removed
Firstly, The 2.0 maps of Black Widow and Ankara have not been practiced, almost ever. They do have completely different strategic features from the base map versions they are based on, and having them thrust upon us without removal of the old is kind of silly.
Secondly, There needs to be a rule about pauses. I looked over and over, and see 0 mention of them. Tactical pauses are a key part of ANY sport, physical, mental, or eSport related.
Thirdly, Removal of the colored smokes. It kind of takes away from the integrity and professionalism of the competitive scene. Also people like me who are partially color blind (albeit I'm red-green), can have problems looking through them.
Finally, I would definitely like there not to be random seeding, as that can pit some of the best teams competing against each other right out the gate, such as ANIXIA v Instinct, Teamw0w vs Carbon, (etc). That doesn't allow the best teams through, rather who gets lucky. I understand that making a real seed is difficult with nothing to base it off of, but for after this singular event, SEEDING needs to be mandatory.
These are all my personal opinions as a long time player, vet, and eSports enthusiast. I'm not demanding these questions be answered/Clarified, or my suggestions be implemented, more of a conversation that needs to be had as our Community has shrunk exponentially over the course of the last 3 years.
Thanks,
Thornzberry,
Aka Bonita Thronz
Comments
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Biggest concern is that the tournament starts in 30 hours and they still haven't read a single support ticket. A lot of teams at the moment won't even be able to play with their desired roster the way this is currently going
Aside from what you posted:
The use of F2 during the match will be subject to a Penalty (Penalty evaluated by the referee).
-So are we not allowed to type in chat during the match? Lol
Rage Quit (leaving the match, alive or dead with the motive of resetting KD) will receive an Official Warning the first time for the team, and can be reason for a Penalty.
-What if we're just trying to change our guns :C
All matches must have 5 players in each team. If a team fails to have the 5 players, the match will be forfeited. (this applies only to the beginning of the match; once the match has started, the team can continue with up to 4 players)
-Why?
Change of players once a match has started. The sub can only enter the Set when the sides are changing.
-Why?
Moving by abnormal method (such as using a bug).
-Bunny hopping, Asian walking? And what about shadows (doesn't really apply to this category, but it wasn't mentioned anywhere)?
-Why are there predetermined maps with a BO1 single elim format and Ankara 2.0/BW 2.0 in pool?
-Is the ability to restart the round nullified only when a player dies, or is it nullified as soon as damage is taken?
-How's 16 bit gonna be enforced?
-I'm assuming the balance/CFS guns will be distributed considering they're allowed in the ruleset?
-Why is there a knife round for the first map but not the 2nd and 3rd?
-I'm sure this is just an oversight, but defuse kit isn't listed as a permitted item
-If we're using blackbox then why have we not been required to submit our AC name?
-Are we allowed pauses?
Quite a weird rule set -
BW and Ankara 2.0... wow.
And yeah our ticket hasn't been answered and our 5th's ticket hasn't been answered so we can't play until you take action on the tickets.
How do we provide evidence of being on AC, an SS? you have the ability to check that yourselves you know?
"Check-ins will be done through the Skype account HERE" what skype, you don't link anything. -
Obviously these rules weren't proof read, by ZZ and z8 just decided to post them, its 1 day before the cup starts, and we have yet to see our answered questions and concerns, not to even mention our support tickets. Like mich said a lot of teams won't even be able to play to there full potential or even at all, cause once again Z8 wants to do as they please and not worry out us the community.
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Obviously these rules weren't proof read, by ZZ and z8 just decided to post them, its 1 day before the cup starts, and we have yet to see our answered questions and concerns, not to even mention our support tickets. Like mich said a lot of teams won't even be able to play to there full potential or even at all, cause once again Z8 wants to do as they please and not worry out us the community.
They just recently fixed all roster issues that were sent through support tickets.
As for rules, to my knowledge:
Asian walking and bunnyhopping are allowed but shadows currently aren't, balance guns won't be distributed for this event, and not sure about pauses or the criteria to restart rounds. Pretty much everything else that was in my original post (such as the use of F2 or penalties against rage quitting) is irrelevant I guess -
michealdrkkt wrote: »They just recently fixed all roster issues that were sent through support tickets.
As for rules, to my knowledge:
Asian walking and bunnyhopping are allowed but shadows currently aren't, balance guns won't be distributed for this event, and not sure about pauses or the criteria to restart rounds. Pretty much everything else that was in my original post (such as the use of F2 or penalties against rage quitting) is irrelevant I guess
Alright sweet. -
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