The banlist
How can we know that the players we have reported are really getting banned?
Is it true that z8 games does not bans people who have bought zp and because of this they removed the banlist?
im not sure if this is the place to post this thread, sorry if it is not but ill be waiting for an answer from a mod at least.
Everyone is welcome to post your opinions about this.
Sorry if my english is bad as it is not my native tongue.
Is it true that z8 games does not bans people who have bought zp and because of this they removed the banlist?
im not sure if this is the place to post this thread, sorry if it is not but ill be waiting for an answer from a mod at least.
Everyone is welcome to post your opinions about this.
Sorry if my english is bad as it is not my native tongue.
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There's no real way. You can monitor their profile and wait for them to lose their "honourable soldier" ribbon but ofcourse, this can also be lost for temp bans to. If they haven't logged in for a while (over 1 month) it usually means they are banned, or just taking a break.
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?p=636930#post636930 -
You can check their last played date, whether or not they have honorable soldier ribbon, or maybe just recognize that it's in everyones interest to get rid of cheaters, so every single instance of banning isn't something that need be declared.
No, it's not true. -
No, the status of the ticket has nothing to do with whether or not it has been reviewed.TheShadowRo wrote: »Well you can look at hack report history - reports procesed by a staff member will have a CLOSED status ... also you will get a replay on that hack report tiket.
BUT after 4 years i only have 2 CLOSED hack reports and z8 staff confirm they was using hack ... the other 6 pages are still OPEN and waiting a z8 staff to look on those hack reports ....
p.s. Today there is a limit of 2 hack reports / day
OMG - even so 90% will remain OPEN for a longtime ....
Hack reports are not responded to in any way, they're all OPEN. -
You can check their last played date, whether or not they have honorable soldier ribbon, or maybe just recognize that it's in everyones interest to get rid of cheaters, so every single instance of banning isn't something that need be declared.
No, it's not true.
well.. some people (including me) think that z8 games sells cheats and thats why they dont ban the cheaters but i dont know maybe they are really fighting them but.. deleting the banlist makes z8 to look really suspicious haha...
by the way i know you are just a mod its not like i want to be mean to you or something so.. my apologies if you thought so -
lolwarhawk wrote: »There's no real way. You can monitor their profile and wait for them to lose their "honourable soldier" ribbon but ofcourse, this can also be lost for temp bans to. If they haven't logged in for a while (over 1 month) it usually means they are banned, or just taking a break.
http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?p=636930#post636930
If your banned ingame, your also banned on forum, But when i had permanent ban on this account it dint said: BANNED.
and war, Alot people already losed them honorable ribbon. So i think you need look to his last play data ;/ -
Dude, the ban list was deleted like 3-4 years ago.well.. some people (including me) think that z8 games sells cheats and thats why they dont ban the cheaters but i dont know maybe they are really fighting them but.. deleting the banlist makes z8 to look really suspicious haha...
by the way i know you are just a mod its not like i want to be mean to you or something so.. my apologies if you thought so
Since then we've implemented countless patches, an automatic banning system, updated pretty much every system there is.
Maybe just drop the whole ban list thing as a "y u no ban" excuse, it's not exactly current.
Selling cheats is such a silly conspiracy theory that I hope you spent the rest of the day blushing in shame. -
Dude, the ban list was deleted like 3-4 years ago.
Since then we've implemented countless patches, an automatic banning system, updated pretty much every system there is.
Maybe just drop the whole ban list thing as a "y u no ban" excuse, it's not exactly current.
Selling cheats is such a silly conspiracy theory that I hope you spent the rest of the day blushing in shame.
alright... first of all the automatic banning system bans people who has never used any kind of cheat in their whole time playing just like me... and it happens a lot of times but at least they are only short time bans so.. that automatic banning system is not that good
about the ban list: your angry reaction makes me suspect more that what you call "theory" its not just a theory but oh well...
the anti cheat system: uhmm i think i dont even need to say a thing about it
why i am taking the time to talk about this?
because i started playing crossfire since 2009 it used to be a really good and fun game where you rarely saw a cheater and you could report them and watch the ban list to see if the time it took you to report them was worth.
the return of the ban list would make people report the cheaters more often
because right now reporting someone is just a waste of time
as i said before
sorry if my english is bad as it is not my native tongue. -
Getting a "hack tool detected" error in NO WAY represents you being banned for a hack, to the extent I know of. Instead it is a badly written error message for a disconnection between client and server. As a result, when you try to log back in, the game will stop you from doing so to prevent multiple copies of the client, (the ghost client that never fully exited the game, and the new client that's trying to log in), to play. That is why you'll need to wait the # of minutes or so to allow the servers to completely log off that older (ghost) client.
The return of the ban list would NOT make people report cheaters more often; rather they would just start hammering the list and stay awake 24/7 waiting and waiting if the person they reported got on the list, not to mention the amount of harassment that could go on towards the people that may end up on the list. It's purpose was detriment to forward progress, at least in my view.
You can look for more possible answers about the ban list by using the
feature above.
It was here, but now is no longer needed as the auto-banning system is banning hundreds of hackers per day. -
i still cant understand why cant u just delete those websites and several video on youtube that actually provides the ha.cking program. I think z8 or saidin has the right to delete them since they are tweaking with the source code of the game.i don't why there isn't any "save replay" button for wave mode. These egyptians use the same bloody crap ha.cking software and destroy our towers with one bullet.
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i still cant understand why cant u just delete those websites and several video on youtube that actually provides the ha.cking program. I think z8 or saidin has the right to delete them since they are tweaking with the source code of the game.i don't why there isn't any "save replay" button for wave mode. These egyptians use the same bloody crap ha.cking software and destroy our towers with one bullet.
Can you put the two posts together please? to do that press edit on the 2nd post, copy everything, then click delete the post.
Then edit the 1st post and paste the text onto that post.
OT: taking down a website needs to have legal authority. For now the only for sure way to take down a website of any kind if for phishing scams or DMCA complaints. Explicit hacking, unfortunately, doesn't have litigation history in the West to be a worthwhile defense for companies to use. It is an industry-wide problem.
As for replay function in WM, replays are not video files, rather they're pieces of server history or something that's recreated for review. Zombie Mode and Wave Mode has so many variables that would probably be too taxing for the servers to recreate and at the same time keep up server load of players playing.
Here's Saidin's view on the matter, I did NOT link the actual thread where it has come from to prevent necro-posting.[GM]Saidin wrote:The replay isn't actually a VIDEO.
It's game data recreated for outside sources to view. ..essentially the game data, to be able to recreate the maps, the players, the graphics and then load up positional data, and firing rates targeting etc.
...But the file size is lower, 6-7 megs is the largest replay I've seen which is much easier to handle than video files.
All just my view on the matter. -
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Getting a "hack tool detected" error in NO WAY represents you being banned for a hack, to the extent I know of. Instead it is a badly written error message for a disconnection between client and server. As a result, when you try to log back in, the game will stop you from doing so to prevent multiple copies of the client, (the ghost client that never fully exited the game, and the new client that's trying to log in), to play. That is why you'll need to wait the # of minutes or so to allow the servers to completely log off that older (ghost) client.
The return of the ban list would NOT make people report cheaters more often; rather they would just start hammering the list and stay awake 24/7 waiting and waiting if the person they reported got on the list, not to mention the amount of harassment that could go on towards the people that may end up on the list. It's purpose was detriment to forward progress, at least in my view.
You can look for more possible answers about the ban list by using the feature above.
It was here, but now is no longer needed as the auto-banning system is banning hundreds of hackers per day.
how do you know that the system is baning hundreds of hackers per day
if there is absolutely no info about it??
and if they are really banning people that fast, then why do i allways see hackers in game with high ranks?
if their ranks are that high it means that they were able to play with their hacks for a long time (mostly)
also i reported a guy using hacks some days ago and he still haves his "honorable soldier' ribbon and it was not my mistake.. the guy was clearly cheating
oh but the guy had some awesome zp guns maybe that is why he has not been banned?
(im not complaining about zp guns) -
Here is my topic I made yesterday, it`s right about the hacking reports: http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=275838
So. I have reported 3 hackers like 2 months ago, and they are still playing and one of them even has a Honorable Soldier ribbon, which he deserves ofc. So Z8Games does nothing with these noobs. They just are getting a lot of money, but at the same time they do nothing to improve this game. Yeah, updates... okay, regular events, new ZP (yeah, ZP, not GP) crates are coming each update), WAVE mode etc. Z8 Devs can do only this, they can`t improve some very important things in game. SO LOW, SO NOOBISH. -
Dude, the ban list was deleted like 3-4 years ago.
Since then we've implemented countless patches, an automatic banning system, updated pretty much every system there is.
Maybe just drop the whole ban list thing as a "y u no ban" excuse, it's not exactly current.
Selling cheats is such a silly conspiracy theory that I hope you spent the rest of the day blushing in shame.
yes xD if they want it so much they can write here all billions of users of crossfire and say banned, No banned:D -
ForumerCR7 wrote: »yes xD if they want it so much they can write here all billions of users of crossfire and say banned, No banned:D
You could go and search their names in the clan page and see if they really exist... and if they do you could see their last play date.
and... billions? really? -
Here is my topic I made yesterday, it`s right about the hacking reports: http://forum.z8games.com/showthread.php?t=275838
So. I have reported 3 hackers like 2 months ago, and they are still playing and one of them even has a Honorable Soldier ribbon, which he deserves ofc. So Z8Games does nothing with these noobs. They just are getting a lot of money, but at the same time they do nothing to improve this game. Yeah, updates... okay, regular events, new ZP (yeah, ZP, not GP) crates are coming each update), WAVE mode etc. Z8 Devs can do only this, they can`t improve some very important things in game. SO LOW, SO NOOBISH.
indeed.. it seems like they are really selling cheats/hacks
or.. did you see if the people you reported had zp guns? -
how do you know that the system is baning hundreds of hackers per day
if there is absolutely no info about it??
and if they are really banning people that fast, then why do i allways see hackers in game with high ranks?
if their ranks are that high it means that they were able to play with their hacks for a long time (mostly)
also i reported a guy using hacks some days ago and he still haves his "honorable soldier' ribbon and it was not my mistake.. the guy was clearly cheating
oh but the guy had some awesome zp guns maybe that is why he has not been banned?
(im not complaining about zp guns)
You try going through 1,000's of reports per day and see if you can ban every single person using hacks. They ban as much as they can, but it doesn't matter; there will always be another hacker. -
indeed.. it seems like they are really selling cheats/hacks
or.. did you see if the people you reported had zp guns?
I have reported 3 players and one of them even had a VIP and very high rank (don`t remember, which exactly).
Z8, you are lows. srsly. Keep doing everything this way, keep getting a lot of money, keep offering a very low service, don`t improve anything. You will loose all the good players, and your servers will be full of stupid turks/arabs/egy which will be hacking 24/7.
Srsly... everything became so annoying... the WAVE mode is just perfect, ofc. Very nice and interesting... BUT! I don`t see the point to play it as there are hackers in every room, and noone even tried to kick them as every1 wants to win. Well, yeah, why players would want to kick them at all if Z8 team/devs are doing nothing(!!) to get rid of these suckers?
Srsly, I am angry about that I can`t have a rest normally enjoying a game after work. I think your servers currently deserves to be burned.
You can send me these "warning" with these points (or wtf this sh.t is, I dunno), I don`t care, but I said my opinion. I am very frustrated. -
Oh, I just understood... If they don`t ban hackers, then every1 can hack, I can hack too. If z8 doesn`t do anything against hackers, that means that they allow hacking officially. Am I correct? ^^ I guess I am! ;]
Yes it seems like you are right.
they should start announcing their hacks in the official z8 games website
or add them as an item in the ingame store -
Dont blow your time tracking hacks. You will not like what you find. They never get ban, I did a test with a hack. Reported him many times in a year. he only got a 7 day Xtrap ban. Never from a report ban. I myself think they stop checking reports years ago. Dont believe me track one? You to will see, he will never get ban from a report. Funny thing is? You guys think they look at your reports. I remember Saidin saying reports are backup. Takes time. lol .... That was years ago. How backed up you think they are now?
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Dont blow your time tracking hacks. You will not like what you find. They never get ban, I did a test with a hack. Reported him many times in a year. he only got a 7 day Xtrap ban. Never from a report ban. I myself think they stop checking reports years ago. Dont believe me track one? You to will see, he will never get ban from a report. Funny thing is? You guys think they look at your reports. I remember Saidin saying reports are backup. Takes time. lol .... That was years ago. How backed up you think they are now?
i am currently tracking one but its just been a week and yet no bann so ill keep tracking him and posting about it -
Yes it seems like you are right.
they should start announcing their hacks in the official z8 games website
or add them as an item in the ingame store
Haha, nice idea man
As mods removes all links from posts, I will post just names of the 3 hackers I have reported like 2 months ago:
Look at them. They are still playing, and one of them still has "Honorable Soldier" ribbon... Just awesome. And noone fckin cares. If there is no bans for hackers, I can hack too. I will look like a sh.t to all my in-game friends and clanmates, I will be kicked from clan, but at least I will be so OP! Another question is - Do I want it and do I need that? But at least I`m officially allowed to hack. -
Yes it seems like you are right.
they should start announcing their hacks in the official z8 games website
or add them as an item in the ingame store
Z8games DOES NOT distribute hacks for their own game. I'm just going to take a leap of logic and say you are a complete idiot.Haha, nice idea man
As mods removes all links from posts, I will post just names of the 3 hackers I have reported like 2 months ago:
Look at them. They are still playing, and one of them still has "Honorable Soldier" ribbon... Just awesome. And noone fckin cares. If there is no bans for hackers, I can hack too. I will look like a sh.t to all my in-game friends and clanmates, I will be kicked from clan, but at least I will be so OP! Another question is - Do I want it and do I need that? But at least I`m officially allowed to hack.
1.) That's because their are rules on the forum, you cannot 'hackusate' another player regardless if he was cheating or not. Support is the only place for them, rubbish rule, I know.
2.) Its possible the player you reported was a legitimate gamer or you have reported the player incorrectly.
3.) Don't go down the wrong road, I've been there before and I can honestly say you are just making it worse for yourself. If you start you will only come to realize they do ban cheaters. -
lolwarhawk wrote: »1.) That's because their are rules on the forum, you cannot 'hackusate' another player regardless if he was cheating or not. Support is the only place for them, rubbish rule, I know.
2.) Its possible the player you reported was a legitimate gamer or you have reported the player incorrectly.
3.) Don't go down the wrong road, I've been there before and I can honestly say you are just making it worse for yourself. If you start you will only come to realize they do ban cheaters.
Oh, another one z8 a.s.s.li.cker
I`m really laughing about your second point - legitimate gamer. Sure, that means, that all hackers are so legitimate ;] Hacks are legal on z8 servers, I understand that. That`s why hackers doesn`t get bans
I`m not gonna start hacking, I`m not a 10yo stupid weak kid that hasn`t any skills. I just said, that I`m officially allowed to hack too as z8 doesn`t care about hackers. -
Oh, another one z8 a.s.s.li.cker
I`m really laughing about your second point - legitimate gamer. Sure, that means, that all hackers are so legitimate ;] Hacks are legal on z8 servers, I understand that. That`s why hackers doesn`t get bans
I`m not gonna start hacking, I`m not a 10yo stupid weak kid that hasn`t any skills. I just said, that I`m officially allowed to hack too as z8 doesn`t care about hackers.
If z8 'don't care' about hackers and if z8 'don't ban' hackers then why do you see people without HSR ribbon? Here is a good example of a permanent ban :
http://clan.z8games.com/charstat_cf.aspx?usn=5316031
I can assure you that ZP was purchased every week on that account yet it got banned 5 days within cheating. No second chances.
Here is a guy I reported from a map in egypt where he was aimbotting:
http://clan.z8games.com/charstat_cf.aspx?usn=6625947
I'm pretty sure he got banned within days of reporting him.
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