Carbon should be unbanned
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It isn't that they can't compete and would succeed in future CFS, it's because Z8 and its affiliated companies need to set an example. If they let Carbon off the hook every team would be like "If Carbon cheated their way to China why can't we" and then they would have a legitimate argument against CF. CF and it's affiliated companies don't want to deal with that backlash and therefore the final nails seal the coffin.
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black0uttttt wrote: »No good teams, they clearly could compete in CFS season 1, so in my opinion the fact they cheated so long ago is pretty irrevelant and as long as it hasnt happened recently they should be allowed to play in ESG
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In no way in any reality would this be a valid reason for unbanning a team who cheated. It is very relevant. They will serve out from the time they got caught, just as any other cheater would. End logical rant. -
[MOD]Polleus wrote: »In no way in any reality would this be a valid reason for unbanning a team who cheated. It is very relevant. They will serve out from the time they got caught, just as any other cheater would. End logical rant.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't they perma banned from international events? They should be banned, no argument there but perma-ban is, in my opinion, too harsh. Let's put Team Alternate as an example. They were caught cheating during LCS qualifiers(also ghosting) and they were only banned from competing for a year and now some of the players that were banned now play on LCS. We need more teams to make the competitive scene grow, they have served their time. -
taeyeoNNNNN wrote: »Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't they perma banned from international events? They should be banned, no argument there but perma-ban is, in my opinion, too harsh. Let's put Team Alternate as an example. They were caught cheating during LCS qualifiers(also ghosting) and they were only banned from competing for a year and now some of the players that were banned now play on LCS. We need more teams to make the competitive scene grow, they have served their time.
IWD and Shook 1 year bans for being toxic too. Absolute Legends got DQed for ghosting in IPL S3 Qualifiers. -
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IWD and Shook 1 year bans for being toxic too. Absolute Legends got DQed for ghosting in IPL S3 Qualifiers.
apdo perm banned for elo boosting. that is beside the point that ghosting on their first offense warrants a perm ban from international events. I say give them a chance, unless if you want to send toxic preteens into LAN because all the decently good teams are "pzlata'd" -
taeyeoNNNNN wrote: »apdo perm banned for elo boosting. that is beside the point that ghosting on their first offense warrants a perm ban from international events. I say give them a chance, unless if you want to send toxic preteens into LAN because all the decently good teams are "pzlata'd"
and Apdo continues to play on his smurf Dopa and sitting at #3 in challenger. Probably the only player able to defeat Faker in mid. -
No matter how much support you get on this thread, it will never happen. They were banned for 1 year from ESG, and their ban will stick for the full duration of that year.
It would set a terrible precedent if we started banning and then unbanning people due to community pressure to do so. This is the same community that asked for an anticheat, that asked for leagues, that asked for better prizes, and the same community that asked for more structure. ESG and G4Box have delivered all of that to you, and now that it is here you still complain. ESG is committed to removing the elements from this community that drag everyone else down, such as the trolls, the cheaters, and the exploiters.
We want to get to a level where CrossFire NA has pure clean competition. Teams shouldn't try to rely on cheats, exploits, or getting a match overturned to win. Those that do, won't be around for long. We spend a lot of time planning for the future and trying to grow this game along with G4Box and [GM]Saidin, and the level of support they are providing as a publisher is incredible. So it's now up to you, the community, to do your part in helping the game grow. Don't be toxic and drive away players, the more new players that come to the game and the competitive community, the better the competition is for you in the end. -
No matter how much support you get on this thread, it will never happen. They were banned for 1 year from ESG, and their ban will stick for the full duration of that year.
It would set a terrible precedent if we started banning and then unbanning people due to community pressure to do so. This is the same community that asked for an anticheat, that asked for leagues, that asked for better prizes, and the same community that asked for more structure. ESG and G4Box have delivered all of that to you, and now that it is here you still complain. ESG is committed to removing the elements from this community that drag everyone else down, such as the trolls, the cheaters, and the exploiters.
We want to get to a level where CrossFire NA has pure clean competition. Teams shouldn't try to rely on cheats, exploits, or getting a match overturned to win. Those that do, won't be around for long. We spend a lot of time planning for the future and trying to grow this game along with G4Box and [GM]Saidin, and the level of support they are providing as a publisher is incredible. So it's now up to you, the community, to do your part in helping the game grow. Don't be toxic and drive away players, the more new players that come to the game and the competitive community, the better the competition is for you in the end.
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black0uttttt wrote: »No good teams, they clearly could compete in CFS season 1, so in my opinion the fact they cheated so long ago is pretty irrevelant and as long as it hasnt happened recently they should be allowed to play in ESG
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Did they pay you to help bail them out? -
kingdooper wrote: »ace gaming
socks
instinct
fly society
washed up
phew we are safe, for now
Aren't Socks and Instinct the same team? Also never heard of washed up.
But regardless I take my previous post back because I thought of a couple better teams as well. -
I think they should get unbanned. Its pretty sad when a team like prime is top 5.
Pretty much all of the competitive teams are bad. I could 1vs5 any team and win single-handedly on client. Want an ESG Bypass? PM me (you don't even need to download anything.) -
It's pretty sad you have to post on an alt and don't have the balls to post on your main, that being said, you're probably some irrelevant player in the community anyways.I think they should get unbanned. Its pretty sad when a team like prime is top 5.kingdooper wrote: »ace gaming
socks
instinct
fly society
washed up
phew we are safe, for now
Socks and !nstinct are the same team. Does washed up even compete? -
mateuszKTT wrote: »It's pretty sad you have to post on an alt and don't have the balls to post on your main, that being said, you're probably some irrelevant player in the community anyways.
Socks and !nstinct are the same team. Does washed up even compete?
like all the other top teams, i am guessing they dont feel the need to compete in every small tournament that goes on. -
Hell no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!black0uttttt wrote: »No good teams, they clearly could compete in CFS season 1, so in my opinion the fact they cheated so long ago is pretty irrevelant and as long as it hasnt happened recently they should be allowed to play in ESG
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Hell NO! they Cheated. And they still lost. They made USA look bad.
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