Body Armor - Feedback and thoughts
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xIKilledYouz wrote: »When you get to China or whatever either for wcg or crossfire stars or anything for that matter is armor and all that allowed or nobody has AC?
The LAN client which is used by Smilegate and Tencent exclusively (as in at current, we do not have access to it) body armor is allowed. As mentioned, accounts are set up on it and you are allowed to purchase the body armor.
I don't specifically know the reason for this, I would hazard a guess in that it extends the games slightly which allows for better commentary.
At the moment, CFNA tournaments online here generally do not allow the use of body armor.
For CFSA they allow the use of body armor, and yes the item is a ZP item, and they get some complaints but not too many.
The number of complaints here in NA would likely be too great. Though it should be something to consider for tournament organizers. We tend to push our organizers to stick to as closely the international rule set as possible (WCG, CF Stars).
I would be curious how many people here would understand that having the armor is part of the "growing up" process for a team to move from national to international competition. How they felt about the item being a ZP item. Would giving body armor as a participation prize for tournament entry be incentive to play?
Also, I wonder about trash talking. I can only imagine a team with armor beating a team without, and spending 2 days on the forums cleaning up excuses for a loss.
What are your opinions. Keep it civil please, feedback of this kind is always great for Tournament Organizers. -
If you were to allow armor in tournaments, every team would have to get a set to play, or else the advantage is just way to big. Or you could always make armor gp =D[GM]Saidin wrote: »The LAN client which is used by Smilegate and Tencent exclusively (as in at current, we do not have access to it) body armor is allowed. As mentioned, accounts are set up on it and you are allowed to purchase the body armor.
I don't specifically know the reason for this, I would hazard a guess in that it extends the games slightly which allows for better commentary.
At the moment, CFNA tournaments online here generally do not allow the use of body armor.
For CFSA they allow the use of body armor, and yes the item is a ZP item, and they get some complaints but not too many.
The number of complaints here in NA would likely be too great. Though it should be something to consider for tournament organizers. We tend to push our organizers to stick to as closely the international rule set as possible (WCG, CF Stars).
I would be curious how many people here would understand that having the armor is part of the "growing up" process for a team to move from national to international competition. How they felt about the item being a ZP item. Would giving body armor as a participation prize for tournament entry be incentive to play?
Also, I wonder about trash talking. I can only imagine a team with armor beating a team without, and spending 2 days on the forums cleaning up excuses for a loss.
What are your opinions. Keep it civil please, feedback of this kind is always great for Tournament Organizers. -
Thanks for replying saiden so you said they do allow body ac from what you have seen but do they allow head ac also? Part of the reason I made this thread was because I watches cf stars and what not if people were allowed head ac then from what i saw at least people who tended to use m4 did worse because well they couldnt just headshot as to the people with the ak they were perfectly fine so I guess Im wandering when you get to like china and head ac is allowed then are the people who do main m4 kinda have to lean toward using ak and like i said its im asking this because people in cf stars that used m4 i saw them mostly getting body shots and they didnt do to hot based on there score from what i saw... can anyone reply to this and thanks saiden for looking at this and putting your input into it
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[GM]Saidin wrote: »The LAN client which is used by Smilegate and Tencent exclusively (as in at current, we do not have access to it) body armor is allowed. As mentioned, accounts are set up on it and you are allowed to purchase the body armor.
I don't specifically know the reason for this, I would hazard a guess in that it extends the games slightly which allows for better commentary.
At the moment, CFNA tournaments online here generally do not allow the use of body armor.
For CFSA they allow the use of body armor, and yes the item is a ZP item, and they get some complaints but not too many.
The number of complaints here in NA would likely be too great. Though it should be something to consider for tournament organizers. We tend to push our organizers to stick to as closely the international rule set as possible (WCG, CF Stars).
I would be curious how many people here would understand that having the armor is part of the "growing up" process for a team to move from national to international competition. How they felt about the item being a ZP item. Would giving body armor as a participation prize for tournament entry be incentive to play?
Also, I wonder about trash talking. I can only imagine a team with armor beating a team without, and spending 2 days on the forums cleaning up excuses for a loss.
What are your opinions. Keep it civil please, feedback of this kind is always great for Tournament Organizers.
I've heard that in other versions (but it hasn't been confirmed) that armor can be bought for GP. Would it be possible for that to be implemented here? -
Drpeck3rable wrote: »If you were to allow armor in tournaments, every team would have to get a set to play, or else the advantage is just way to big. Or you could always make armor gp =D
This is pretty much what would have to happen. If a tournament organizer in our version were to require armor, it would have to be provided for everyone. Only way allowing armor would be accepted in this case. -
I believe a tournament should be a competition of skill and teamwork (Mostly teamwork). If a player could get a head shot once, what better test of skill than to see if they could do it twice? But I do not like armor very much so I would say no to armor in a tournament.
Maybe armor could be used as a handicap? Say if a losing team called bs and wanted a rematch, allow them to have a rematch with the team that beat them, but let the team that beat them have body armor. -
I've heard that in other versions (but it hasn't been confirmed) that armor can be bought for GP. Would it be possible for that to be implemented here?
Armor is ZP in CFSA, off the top of my head I would have to confirm the other versions.
That being said, CFSA is quickly becoming a beacon for E-Sports in Brazil. While that may not matter to a bunch of people here, it is a great example of how to successfully make CrossFire a competitive game.
Something we're moving towards here (albeit a little slower). But stay tuned for lots of news about tournaments and competitions, regular leagues that is.
For the post a few above asking about head, yes in international rules (WCG and CF Stars) head and body are allowed. -
Thanks again saiden but the reason im made this thread mainly not only to help with esg which i soon hope polleus comes out was to know about the head ac b/c people who use the ak in china can just go with there buisness and still 1 tap them lol but people with the m4 takes 2 shots now and like i said what i saw at cf stars the people who used the m4 didnt do to well so i guess with the head ac i wander if that makes them before they get to china makes them practice a lot with the ak even if they dont prefer it
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I don't see anything wrong with having armour, in pubs or scrim, but it would be nice to know whether the opposing team is playing with it or not, I personally don't care during pubs, I see it as training, but scrims can be frustrating.
It would be nice to know, while in the lobby to have it beside your name on your name card a little indication of this player has AC equipped. Just for those who want to be *******s. I think it would be a good idea.
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[GM]Saidin wrote: »The LAN client which is used by Smilegate and Tencent exclusively (as in at current, we do not have access to it) body armor is allowed. As mentioned, accounts are set up on it and you are allowed to purchase the body armor.
I don't specifically know the reason for this, I would hazard a guess in that it extends the games slightly which allows for better commentary.
At the moment, CFNA tournaments online here generally do not allow the use of body armor.
For CFSA they allow the use of body armor, and yes the item is a ZP item, and they get some complaints but not too many.
The number of complaints here in NA would likely be too great. Though it should be something to consider for tournament organizers. We tend to push our organizers to stick to as closely the international rule set as possible (WCG, CF Stars).
I would be curious how many people here would understand that having the armor is part of the "growing up" process for a team to move from national to international competition. How they felt about the item being a ZP item. Would giving body armor as a participation prize for tournament entry be incentive to play?
Also, I wonder about trash talking. I can only imagine a team with armor beating a team without, and spending 2 days on the forums cleaning up excuses for a loss.
What are your opinions. Keep it civil please, feedback of this kind is always great for Tournament Organizers.
So after 3 years of whining, my ultimate mission will be accomplished! -
Can someone respond to this though please
art of the reason I made this thread was because I watches cf stars and what not if people were allowed head ac then from what i saw at least people who tended to use m4 did worse because well they couldnt just headshot as to the people with the ak they were perfectly fine so I guess Im wandering when you get to like china and head ac is allowed then are the people who do main m4 kinda have to lean toward using ak and like i said its im asking this because people in cf stars that used m4 i saw them mostly getting body shots and they didnt do to hot based on there score from what i saw... can anyone reply to this and thanks saiden for looking at this and putting your input into it
and also polleus get to talking with saiden about providing ac for esg !!! lol -
xIKilledYouz wrote: »Can someone respond to this though please art of the reason I made this thread was because I watches cf stars and what not if people were allowed head ac then from what i saw at least people who tended to use m4 did worse because well they couldnt just headshot as to the people with the ak they were perfectly fine so I guess Im wandering when you get to like china and head ac is allowed then are the people who do main m4 kinda have to lean toward using ak and like i said its im asking this because people in cf stars that used m4 i saw them mostly getting body shots and they didnt do to hot based on there score from what i saw... can anyone reply to this and thanks saiden for looking at this and putting your input into it
and also polleus get to talking with saiden about providing ac for esg !!! lol
It's head and body armor.
TBH the m4 isn't that big of a disadvantage, because with the great reg of lan it's easy to work the m4. -
Terrorism_1 wrote: »I don't see anything wrong with having armour, in pubs or scrim, but it would be nice to know whether the opposing team is playing with it or not, I personally don't care during pubs, I see it as training, but scrims can be frustrating.
It would be nice to know, while in the lobby to have it beside your name on your name card a little indication of this player has AC equipped. Just for those who want to be *******s. I think it would be a good idea.
Best idea so far -
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My response would be the same as Polleus':
I like using international rule sets because that allows players & teams to prepare through leagues / tournaments that create that environment. With armor being controversial on our version (NA), I would love to see it allowed. That being said, since it is an item that must be purchased with real money, the hostess of the tournament should provide it for the participants.
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