Require Experienced Teams to Practice
Tomorrow I and Veracity will take the step forward into a more serious competitive atmosphere. I and the team may even split from Veracity, but this depends on our success and commitment
I would love to arrange some matches with some prestigious, experienced, and proven teams (not all those "wanna-be" teams which are easier than cwars or a bunch of ringers who clearly don't commnicate). That being said we're a "wanna-be team", however we've proven in pubs that we're argueably top 5, but we want to get better.
*I would prefer if you kick our asses hard (only way to learn), but I would also appreciate if you could come on our mumble after and give us constructive criticism on the match. If we have time we could do a 5 rounder "replaying scenarios" or showing a strat, etc.
If interested and your team has time PM me in forums or msg me in CF. My Xfire is bldsaint, but I have no clue how to use it and I am still learning it. Thanks for your time,
Regards
Saint
I would love to arrange some matches with some prestigious, experienced, and proven teams (not all those "wanna-be" teams which are easier than cwars or a bunch of ringers who clearly don't commnicate). That being said we're a "wanna-be team", however we've proven in pubs that we're argueably top 5, but we want to get better.
*I would prefer if you kick our asses hard (only way to learn), but I would also appreciate if you could come on our mumble after and give us constructive criticism on the match. If we have time we could do a 5 rounder "replaying scenarios" or showing a strat, etc.
If interested and your team has time PM me in forums or msg me in CF. My Xfire is bldsaint, but I have no clue how to use it and I am still learning it. Thanks for your time,
Regards
Saint
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Just go in ego-8 and spam 5 :P
Any scrim you play you ought to learn something unless you're just winning with no chance of losing even 1 round.
We're 9-2 (Henry too stronk 1 game then H1N1) doing that. We've had little problems with "random teams", "pub teams like ourselves", and "thrown together 5's". We want a chance to play with teams that play in CFL and such. Brando told me after china he'd be down (we know that outcome) and I'll hit up my friends in Jeden to get a match, but we want other teams like that to challenge us.
I also know its a better way to build a relationship here (forums) and thats what I want. A few teams to take us under their wing on their spare time and practice with us. In time perhaps we'll give them a challenge or teach them as well! -
We're 9-1 (Henry too stronk 1 game) doing that. We've had little problems with "random teams", "pub teams like ourselves", and "thrown together 5's". We want a chance to play with teams that play in CFL and such. Brando told me after china he'd be down (we know that outcome) and I'll hit up my friends in Jeden to get a match, but we want other teams like that to challenge us.
I also know its a better way to build a relationship here (forums) and thats what I want. A few teams to take us under their wing on their spare time and practice with us. In time perhaps we'll give them a challenge or teach them as well!
Scrims really not that big of a deal, just practice. Whenever you have 5 on just ask anytime in e8 lobby and you'll find 1, no need to setup a scrim date unless you're setting a match fpr a tourney. Just my opinion. Any 5 is good though. Good luck. -
We're 9-1 (Henry too stronk 1 game) doing that. We've had little problems with "random teams", "pub teams like ourselves", and "thrown together 5's". We want a chance to play with teams that play in CFL and such. Brando told me after china he'd be down (we know that outcome) and I'll hit up my friends in Jeden to get a match, but we want other teams like that to challenge us.
I also know its a better way to build a relationship here (forums) and thats what I want. A few teams to take us under their wing on their spare time and practice with us. In time perhaps we'll give them a challenge or teach them as well!
Winning scrims doesn't matter to whether or not you were able to practice . . .
If you want to practice, then put yourself and your team in high-risk, high-reward scenarios. That way, by practicing them enough, you turn them into low-risk, high-reward scenarios, and can actually use them in matches that matter.
You don't need to be playing against top tier teams to be able to do this. The vast majority of teams playing in E8 provide enough of an opponent for you to work with.
If you're keeping track of your scrim record, you're doing it wrong =\
EDIT: Also, if you want to build a relationship with someone, doing in the public eye is not the most optimal place. Try xFire or w/e your private medium of choice is for obvious reasons. -
who the hell keeps track of their scrim record? lmao
scrims are just for practice; they don't mean anything.
I usually treat scrims seriously, even though theyre not on par with matches, they do require an element of seriousness, as you do learn a lot from them.
but keeping track of your record is pretty unnecessary imo. -
[MOD]Denxi wrote: »Winning scrims doesn't matter to whether or not you were able to practice . . .
If you want to practice, then put yourself and your team in high-risk, high-reward scenarios. That way, by practicing them enough, you turn them into low-risk, high-reward scenarios, and can actually use them in matches that matter.
You don't need to be playing against top tier teams to be able to do this. The vast majority of teams playing in E8 provide enough of an opponent for you to work with.
If you're keeping track of your scrim record, you're doing it wrong =\
EDIT: Also, if you want to build a relationship with someone, doing in the public eye is not the most optimal place. Try xFire or w/e your private medium of choice is for obvious reasons.
You are wrong, 15min baron solo will always be a high risk high reward no matter how hard you practice. -
Tomorrow I and Veracity will take the step forward into a more serious competitive atmosphere. I and the team may even split from Veracity, but this depends on our success and commitment
I would love to arrange some matches with some prestigious, experienced, and proven teams (not all those "wanna-be" teams which are easier than cwars or a bunch of ringers who clearly don't commnicate). That being said we're a "wanna-be team", however we've proven in pubs that we're argueably top 5, but we want to get better.
*I would prefer if you kick our asses hard (only way to learn), but I would also appreciate if you could come on our mumble after and give us constructive criticism on the match. If we have time we could do a 5 rounder "replaying scenarios" or showing a strat, etc.
If interested and your team has time PM me in forums or msg me in CF. My Xfire is bldsaint, but I have no clue how to use it and I am still learning it. Thanks for your time,
Regards
Saint
Yes, you're obviously top 5 due to you're strong performance in pubs. Maybe even the best. -
Tomorrow I and Veracity will take the step forward into a more serious competitive atmosphere...
Saint
Something that can help your team
http://www.youtube.com/user/CompetiveCF
There are a lot of ''high'' teams going at it, you can copy some of their setups, retakes and pushes for example.
And gl for your team
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IMaMACHINE wrote: »Yes, you're obviously top 5 due to you're strong performance in pubs. Maybe even the best.
He clearly wasn't saying his team was top 5 in the game. Learn to interpret sentences. This kid is trying to get better, makes an honest post requesting help, and THAT'S what you took from his post?
If you have no interest in helping this kid, then don't bother posting in his thread. -
ranking from worst to best, these are the best forms of practice outside of pubs
1. online scrims. either your team or the other team wont take it seriously. With that said, the mentality during these should not be "let's win". if the enemy team has an amazing A-site hold, then don't try to avoid it. hammer away over and over until you find out how to deal with it. Then, when it comes time to things that matter, you're able to take that site with relative ease. Online scrims an opportunity to try new things and to learn new things, not to perfect the things you already have. This is the opposite of when on CT, where you should play the same spot as many times as possible. This helps you see how teams are likely to attempt to counter that specific spot, especially if they get a lucky guess that you're there.
2. Online leagues/tournament games. Practicing tournament sets makes you better at 1 thing: winning tournament sets. This is when you take the things you've learned and get to see how your opponents will handle them, and it works on your team chemistry in higher-stakes situations.
3. Team practices. Go over demos of past games, both games you've lost and games you've won. Set 4 of you in 1 mumble room and 3 in another. The 4 group is T, the other CT. Work on taking a site. Keep doing it. Over and over. Afterward, talk about what you could do better. Do dry runs of your nade timings, smoke placements, boost spots. Perfect what you've learned.
4. LAN Tournaments. The absolute best form of practice. Again, the best way to practice winning tournament games (especially with that much pressure) is to play tournament games. -
taeyeoNNNNN wrote: »You are wrong, 15min baron solo will always be a high risk high reward no matter how hard you practice.
Fine, I will elaborate.
While a 15min baron will always be high-risk, by practicing it a lot, you will learn how to reduce the risk. Even if it is still considered "high-risk", it will be less so with more practice. You learn more about what opportunities/team comps allow for a higher chance of success, and can then take that information and use it in a match.
League to CF is a hard comparison unfortunately, but hopefully I made my point clear. -
[MOD]Denxi wrote: »Fine, I will elaborate.
While a 15min baron will always be high-risk, by practicing it a lot, you will learn how to reduce the risk. Even if it is still considered "high-risk", it will be less so with more practice. You learn more about what opportunities/team comps allow for a higher chance of success, and can then take that information and use it in a match.
League to CF is a hard comparison unfortunately, but hopefully I made my point clear.
15 minute nunu baron is ezpz. Also blitzcrank adc is best way to go. -
He clearly wasn't saying his team was top 5 in the game. Learn to interpret sentences. This kid is trying to get better, makes an honest post requesting help, and THAT'S what you took from his post?
If you have no interest in helping this kid, then don't bother posting in his thread.
alright stud. -
Not with new Nunu. Hue.taeyeoNNNNN wrote: »You are wrong, 15min baron solo will always be a high risk high reward no matter how hard you practice.
It's actually the Vietnamese doing work from what I've seen; not many Chinese except for Web/Trio.Inconclusive wrote: »you guys should honestly stay in the clan server;
the chinese teams there are good enough to beat 3/4 of the teams that scrim in e8
OT: H1N1 practicing Friday night 9/10 EST. Just let us know when you got 5. ^^ -
Not with new Nunu. Hue.
It's actually the Vietnamese doing work from what I've seen; not many Chinese except for Web/Trio.
OT: H1N1 practicing Friday night 9/10 EST. Just let us know when you got 5. ^^
but regardless, clan server is just as good if not better practice -
How can you get better if you don't try to win? Doesn't winning show improvement? lol.
If you try to win, you will make decisions that have the highest chance of giving you a good outcome. Doing something over an over again that you already know how to use properly does not help you improve.
Now, if you try to IMPROVE, you'll try things that you don't know/can't do, but if pulled off well would give you a good outcome. Things that, by learning them, give you more options for consistent good outcomes in matches.
Example: Aim wise I am a terrible player. The vast majority of my skill is involved in micro and macro positioning and thought. In scrims, I make decisions that place myself in situations where I am required to have good aim to get out off. Situations that challenge me, and force me to improve if I want to be successful in them, even if right now I'll probably fail. If I wanted to WIN however, I would not rely on my aim at all, and instead focus on putting myself in situations that I can think and position my way out of.
If you want to win, you lower the risk and challenge of the situation. If you want to improve, you increase the risk and challenge. Simple as that. Playing to win a scrim is counter-productive. -
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