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  • IT_Aero wrote: »
    But honestly do you think that the ones that didn't bandi a few rounds (was a mistake and forgot to press record) that they cheated a few rounds then started bandi and kept the same pace pretty much the rest of the game?

    Maybe, maybe not. Either way 1) it does provide an advantage, and 2) it's against the rules.
    Aero who was 17-14 and 17-12 missed a few rounds but carried both halves regardless of bandi'ing most the first and all of the 2nd half and [IT]ALT missing I think 2 rounds and only going 12-9.
    "A few rounds" is pretty significant when there was a difference of 1 round in the end. I wouldn't say 4 rounds (I believe 3 of them were winning rounds) are just "a few rounds".
    Then good2kno who had damage down on, who we reminded everyone to take off before the match most likely didn't say to himself "hmm I'm going to leave this on on purpose even though I'm recording my screen" he either forgot to turn it off even though we mentioned or he clicked it, the notification came up saying it was off but didn't really turn off as items sometimes do. Hardly a game changer either way.

    It does have benefits, and it's against the rules.
    But we could continue this and we could request all of your bandi's (not saying we are yet) and find something to dispute you with. We have never requested bandi for other than armor checks or actually thought they cheated.

    We didn't ask for your bandis thinking "oh hey maybe they used damage down" or "lets dispute for no reason other than the chance we get the win", we disputes because we wanted to make sure everyone was legit.


    But unless logic changes his mind, you guys got the win.

    @MONTGOMERY, how did we not follow the rules? Just wondering.
  • itKonrad wrote: »
    who is talking....

    An admin of presidential cup


    After viewing all of the reported disputes and watching over the videos, I have concluded that both teams will be Disqualified from the winners/losers brackets and are no longer aloud to play in the rest of the tourney. The following team that they are suppose to face higher in the bracket will have a by week and continue to play. Sorry gentlemen, read the rules.
  • An admin of presidential cup


    After viewing all of the reported disputes and watching over the videos, I have concluded that both teams will be Disqualified from the winners/losers brackets and are no longer aloud to play in the rest of the tourney. The following team that they are suppose to face higher in the bracket will have a by week and continue to play. Sorry gentlemen, read the rules.

    We didn't break any rules. What are you talking about?
  • decimateCF wrote: »
    We didn't break any rules. What are you talking about?

    Sorry sir, are doubting my decision making and authority? One of your players did not record a couple of rounds, that is going to result in a disqualification.
  • Sorry sir, you disrespected my authority, and one of your players did not record a couple of rounds, that is going to result in a disqualification.

    I'm not in In Theory.
  • decimateCF wrote: »
    If none of us uploaded our bandicams (because afaik they didn't ask), how can you say we didn't record a couple rounds?

    Unless I'm in IT and didn't know it..

    Oh i'm sorry, I have made a mistake in my decision making and anallization. In Theory get's disqualified for not following the rules set. EnVo gets the win and moves up the brackets.
  • You actually don't get dq'd for not following rules. You lose a round for every round that a rule wasn't followed. Since good2kno had damage down on yes we would lose every round but if they slipped up and did something wrong the whole game it would result in a tie game and overtime.

    Also, Ha isn't an admin.

    acehood and Logic are admins.
  • Since when are you an admin Anthony?
    EnVo should technically be getting the win by dq, but they did lose round wise. Thy also told me that they did not want the dq win but then later changed their mind. It was such a close game that not recording the first few rounds as well as having damage down could have been a large factor as to the outcome of the match. No decision has been made yet, I'll have to talk it over with the Chris.
  • oLOGIC wrote: »
    Since when are you an admin Anthony?
    EnVo should technically be getting the win by dq, but they did lose round wise. Thy also told me that they did not want the dq win but then later changed their mind. It was such a close game that not recording the first few rounds as well as having damage down could have been a large factor as to the outcome of the match. No decision has been made yet, I'll have to talk it over with the Chris.

    Just saying but that's not what I said. I said they should be DQ'd but if you give them the win I won't complain. Nisi then came on and told you we should get the win.

    :)
  • oLOGIC wrote: »
    Since when are you an admin Anthony?
    EnVo should technically be getting the win by dq, but they did lose round wise. Thy also told me that they did not want the dq win but then later changed their mind. It was such a close game that not recording the first few rounds as well as having damage down could have been a large factor as to the outcome of the match. No decision has been made yet, I'll have to talk it over with the Chris.

    heheehehehhehe >:)
  • Since no decision has been made yet, I'm just going to request all of their bandi's as it is still within the 48 hour period. For all we know we could be getting dq'd for something they have done as well.
  • envo lost to a clan that is virtually unknown in e8
    naice
  • IT_Aero wrote: »

    Unless an admin teamviewed you or you didn't post it, zoso never uploaded his bandicam.
    IT_Aero wrote: »
    Since no decision has been made yet, I'm just going to request all of their bandi's as it is still within the 48 hour period. For all we know we could be getting dq'd for something they have done as well.

    You're pathetic.
    x_Gen wrote: »
    envo lost to a clan that is virtually unknown in e8
    naice

    If we: used illegal items and had 2 people not recording for multiple rounds (and possibly had someone not recording at all; hasn't uploaded as far as I know), it would've been a different outcome.
  • decimateCF wrote: »
    If we: used illegal items and had 2 people not recording for multiple rounds (and possibly had someone not recording at all; hasn't uploaded as far as I know), it would've been a different outcome.

    face it, you suck

    cookie cant carry all of you

    and gj calling aero pathetic when you requested EVERYONEs bandi

    youre a joke
  • IT_Aero wrote: »
    Since no decision has been made yet, I'm just going to request all of their bandi's as it is still within the 48 hour period. For all we know we could be getting dq'd for something they have done as well.

    D0uche bag move
  • x_Gen wrote: »
    face it, you suck

    cookie cant carry all of you

    and gj calling aero pathetic when you requested EVERYONEs bandi

    youre a joke

    1) You're a garbage pubstar, please stop going in the competitive section.
    2) He wasn't carrying you moron
    3) There's a difference. We requested bandicams because we wanted to ensure everyone was legit, it is perfectly normal in matches. They did not think we cheated and are requesting bandicam just in hopes that something is wrong so they can dispute.
    4) You're a random awful pubstar with the intelligence of ocgEvan. If you have a rope nearby you may want to use it.

    I understand though, I'd also be upset if I got rejected by every clan I applied for.
  • Lmao, So you can request full bandi from their team and then call them pathetic for requesting the same thing. This is the 2nd time you done this with a team. Damn you hate losing. I do to but not that much.

    @Ha
    Mind your own business. You're annoying.

    Anyways I predict DreamWork wins the tourney if they have not lost yet.
  • dgaf***** wrote: »
    Lmao, So you can request full bandi from their team and then call them pathetic for requesting the same thing. This is the 2nd time you done this with a team. Damn you hate losing. I do to but not that much.

    You're an idiot, listen to your own advice. Sucks to be an awful player in detox huh :(

    Skim over the thread and try comprehending something for a change.
  • LOL SO MAD

    Teams that win usually don't ask for bandis because they won and their no point on arguing that one of the players cheat and they asked for bandis because you are being a total sore loser trying to get them dq to get the win. You looked at the bandis and looked for items and things that are not aloud since you could not see any cheats used.
    Why would you think that I'm in Cheatox, awful clan that wins by cheating or OP weapons and armor. Yes I'm awful that is why I don't join tourneys.
  • dgaf***** wrote: »
    LOL SO MAD

    Teams that win usually don't ask for bandis because they won and their no point on arguing that one of the players cheat and they asked for bandis because you are being a total sore loser trying to get them dq to get the win. You looked at the bandis and looked for items and things that are not aloud since you could not see any cheats used.
    Why would you think that I'm in Cheatox, awful clan that wins by cheating or OP weapons and armor. Yes I'm awful that is why I don't join tourneys.

    I'm the one mad? Nah, more disgusted by the fact someone can be so dumb.

    It's not a matter of "we won we're not gonna ask for bandi", I can guarantee they didn't think any of us were cheating. They asked for our bandicam only in a last resort attempt to try getting the win. That's pathetic, not asking for a bandicam to check that everyone was legit. If you get frowned upon for that, what's the point of even having bandicam as an anticheat?

    Actually I looked at about 1 minute of each bandicam to check that they actually did record. It's pretty obvious to spot when it turns on at 3-1 and someone has a giant logo that reads "damage down".

    hmm, I have no idea why I would make the assumption that you're a trash player in detox... . Thanks for admitting you suck though.

    Since you're obviously not going to even try understanding the whole situation, I'll tell you. We asked for their bandis etc, they finally uploaded. I noticed that they should be DQ'd and xfired logic. I said:

    [22:15] micheal l LFT: just saying
    [22:16] micheal l LFT: up to you, I honestly dont care if we get the win or not

    I simply told logic what rules they broke and told him that they should be DQ'd but I wouldn't care if logic let IT win. Shortly after swanky got on and was the one that told logic we should get the win if they broke the rules, so that's when the forum posts started. In the end, in theory is being scumbags now asking for our bandicams because they're idiots and can't follow the rules (btw how do you "forget" to record 4 rounds when your teammate specifically asked if everyone was recording multiple times?). I wasn't the one that complained when logic originally said they can have the win, like I said previously I didn't care too much. Logic can confirm if you think I'm lying. The only reason I actually want IT DQ'd now is because they're being scumbags now.

    Asking for bandicams (anticheat in this case) to make sure no cheating was involved =/= Asking for bandicams because they want to be scumbags and find a way to get a DQ.

    Took about 2 minutes to type up if you're going to say "nobody asked for an essay", but whatever.
  • I simply asked for bandi because what if one on your team didn't bandi or accidentally left an item on? You would get the win and nobody would know any better.

    As far as me not bandi'ing, I didn't join at half I joined in the middle and simply forgot to press record for 2 rounds. As far as sticky not bandi'ing he says he pressed the button to record and never double checked that it came on and did turn it on soon as he realized it wasn't recording.

    I'm okay with being dq'd as no we didn't follow the rules. It was our mistake, but I'm going to make sure if we get dq'd for doing something the other team didn't do it as well.
  • IT_Aero wrote: »
    I simply asked for bandi because what if one on your team didn't bandi or accidentally left an item on? You would get the win and nobody would know any better.

    As far as me not bandi'ing, I didn't join at half I joined in the middle and simply forgot to press record for 2 rounds. As far as sticky not bandi'ing he says he pressed the button to record and never double checked that it came on and did turn it on soon as he realized it wasn't recording.

    I'm okay with being dq'd as no we didn't follow the rules. It was our mistake, but I'm going to make sure if we get dq'd for doing something the other team didn't do it as well.

    Whether you say it was an accident or not, it's still against the rules and you won at least 3 rounds in those rounds you weren't recording (don't remember who it was that didn't record 4 rounds so I'm just using "you"). If we lost by like 10 rounds it would be a different story, but the difference was 1 round.

    When logic comes on tomorrow he can teamview me for bandicams. However, I don't have direct contact with any of my team, and really none of us even get on until match time. I'll see if I can try contacting all of them though.
  • decimateCF wrote: »
    Whether you say it was an accident or not, it's still against the rules and you won at least 3 rounds in those rounds you weren't recording (don't remember who it was that didn't record 4 rounds so I'm just using "you"). If we lost by like 10 rounds it would be a different story, but the difference was 1 round.
    you should read the post you quote.
    IT_Aero wrote: »
    I'm okay with being dq'd as no we didn't follow the rules. It was our mistake, but I'm going to make sure if we get dq'd for doing something the other team didn't do it as well.
  • decimateCF wrote: »
    Whether you say it was an accident or not, it's still against the rules and you won at least 3 rounds in those rounds you weren't recording (don't remember who it was that didn't record 4 rounds so I'm just using "you"). If we lost by like 10 rounds it would be a different story, but the difference was 1 round.

    I understand it could of been a "gamechanger" and we would rightfully lose those rounds. As for the damage down we could break it down to the rounds good2kno jumped off any ledges high enough to warrant damage down changing the rounds outcome.

    But if we are losing rounds for not bandi'ing then yes, I'm going to ask your whole team to upload bandi as they could of made the same mistake and won rounds out of not bandi'ing.
  • IT_Aero wrote: »
    I understand it could of been a "gamechanger" and we would rightfully lose those rounds. As for the damage down we could break it down to the rounds good2kno jumped off any ledges high enough to warrant damage down changing the rounds outcome.

    But if we are losing rounds for not bandi'ing then yes, I'm going to ask your whole team to upload bandi as they could of made the same mistake and won rounds out of not bandi'ing.


    That isn't how it works, if you ask for other team bandi then it should be after the match, not days after......I believe it is too late to ask for a dispute on other team mate.
  • dgaf***** wrote: »
    Lmao, So you can request full bandi from their team and then call them pathetic for requesting the same thing. This is the 2nd time you done this with a team. Damn you hate losing. I do to but not that much.

    @Ha
    Mind your own business. You're annoying.

    Anyways I predict DreamWork wins the tourney if they have not lost yet.

    You're an idiot if you didn't see what I was doing. Stay off your alt and post on your main big man.
  • EnVo_Nisi wrote: »
    That isn't how it works, if you ask for other team bandi then it should be after the match, not days after......I believe it is too late to ask for a dispute on other team mate.

    You have 48 hours to request bandi.
  • Please stop tearing up the thread nabs.
    IT_Aero wrote: »
    You have 48 hours to request bandi.
    No, you have 24 hours after the match has been reported to request it.

    05-19-2013, 09:08 PM < Match reported
    05-21-2013, 07:16 PM < IT requests EnVo's bandicams.
    Over 46 hours in between the match report and the dispute. This dispute is annulled.
    In Theory was not recording the entire time and had one member using an illegal item for the entire game. Every round played without the recording is treated as a lost round. Every round played with Falling Damage Down is treated as a lost round. Therefore, In Theory won 0 rounds & EnVo advances in the bracket.