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ManInMotion wrote: »Even if these so called health packs were implemented into our game, which they won't be, I'd rather have a pistol as a side arm than health in most cases. I'm pretty sure many people would agree...
Exactly... thats the trade off. -
I kinda like this idea, would need some tweaking.
It replaces the Sub-slot. (No pistol backup)
Should take 3-5 seconds to apply too yourself. (3-5 seconds of helplessness, plus the time needed to switch weapons)
Recovers 25-50HP, once per life. (Max HP one cen get to being 100)
Pros: can recover some HP in 1 life.
Cons: Replaces pistol, takes time to use, and are helpless with it out. -
no way coders are constantly working on ways to cheat the game creating a health system would totally create an oppourtunity for people with 100 health packs 1shot and shoot through walls man it would be horrible to be in a 12 min ffa with someone like that haha
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How many people use their pistol? I know only a few people that use their pistol. Everybody would just this health packs because they don't lose anything. Well snipers use their pistols but beside them nobody does. There are a few people that pull out their pistol when they ran out of ammo but they die fast.
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BadMonkey666 wrote: »How many people use their pistol? I know only a few people that use their pistol. Everybody would just this health packs because they don't lose anything. Well snipers use their pistols but beside them nobody does. There are a few people that pull out their pistol when they ran out of ammo but they die fast.
Are you serious?
Somone from the competitive community please come here. -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »Are you serious?
Somone from the competitive community please come here.
The Pistol is a serious component when running out of bullets or going for a quick kill.
It can also be the difference of dying trying to reload or getting that hs with your deagle.
Snipers especially, when enemies come to close your pistol is your best friend. -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »Are you serious?
Somone from the competitive community please come here.
yes I am serious. The pistols are not good at all. You might kill an enemy that has like 30 or 20 hp but other then the pistol is trash. The firing rate is to slow.
If you run out of ammo you can just pick up another weapon but crossfire is a fast game and most of the users wont lose their ammo anyway.
If you think otherwise then please play a game where you only play with your pistol and post the results. -
I, along with A LOT of other people, use my pistol a lot. You run faster with it for one. Deag bullets do more damage then basically any other weapon other then sniper rifles. I've aced All Weps Allowed matches with just a pistol. I've even aced a TD on ship using nothing but my p228. If you can't get kills with a pistol you must be way worse then you are always claiming to be on these forums.BadMonkey666 wrote: »yes I am serious. The pistols are not good at all. You might kill an enemy that has like 30 or 20 hp but other then the pistol is trash. The firing rate is to slow.
If you run out of ammo you can just pick up another weapon but crossfire is a fast game and most of the users wont lose their ammo anyway.
If you think otherwise then please play a game where you only play with your pistol and post the results.
Furthermore, you're an idiot and your posts NEVER contribute anything to a thread. You are clearly a gutless little puke IRL and your only outlet is to be negative wannabe know-it-all on these forums. If you talked to me to my face the way you do on these forums I would shove my fist up your ass and pull your guts out. -
' wrote:dvda[;3092209']I, along with A LOT of other people, use my pistol a lot. You run faster with it for one. Deag bullets do more damage then basically any other weapon other then sniper rifles. If you can't get kills with a pistol you must be way worse then you are always claiming to be on these forums.
Furthermore, you're an idiot and your posts NEVER contribute anything to a thread. You are clearly a gutless little puke IRL and your only outlet is to be negative wannabe know-it-all on these forums. If you talked to me to my face the way you do on these forums I would shove my fist up your ass and pull your guts out.
Calm down there brah... but I do agree with your message.
To enlighten him, you might want to explain that alot of people will burst with their primary and then when they are supposed to reload they will switch to deag and wait. Alot of players do this, and you can even watch well known players do this regularly. -
RawrJafrikan wrote: »Also I can tell you guys are new to the forums. I usually post this suggestion once a month. You are severly handicaped.
The mighty jafrikan has spoken!
As of the idea itself, i think it wont be overpowered at all. Karma has health packs and everyone its fine with it. every unreal game has health packs and no one is bothered by them. Hope it gets implemented someday
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i think i will requote jaffBadMonkey666 wrote: »yes I am serious. The pistols are not good at all. You might kill an enemy that has like 30 or 20 hp but other then the pistol is trash. The firing rate is to slow.
If you run out of ammo you can just pick up another weapon but crossfire is a fast game and most of the users wont lose their ammo anyway.
If you think otherwise then please play a game where you only play with your pistol and post the results.RawrJafrikan wrote: »You are severly handicaped. -
every unreal game has health packs and no one is bothered by them. Hope it gets implemented someday
no it wont be implemented.
it would mess up the game....
also this game is not like unreal. there they have all kinda guns so you wanna have those kinda guns in crossfire aswell?
also if you got the idea of the game 'unreal' then it would never be implemented because they cant take a idea of another game. -
L_OVER_BO_Y wrote: »no it wont be implemented.
it would mess up the game....
also this game is not like unreal. there they have all kinda guns so you wanna have those kinda guns in crossfire aswell?
also if you got the idea of the game 'unreal' then it would never be implemented because they cant take a idea of another game.
In theory everything new "messes up" the game. It's all based on perspective. One may say that the M12s balanced the game because of all the ZP users, while others may say it unbalanced the game because of its overpowered damage and high rate of fire.
That statement of having other kind of guns like the ones from (let's say) TF2 is rather excessive. He was simply suggesting a healing item, which isn't all that bad.
Besides, This game of all other FPS games has been pretty unrealistic. Mutants, Ghosts, Zombies, Definitely all realistic.
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I didnt say it wouldnt be realistic. I just say it would mess up the gamr.TGEHydralisk wrote: »In theory everything new "messes up" the game. It's all based on perspective. One may say that the M12s balanced the game because of all the ZP users, while others may say it unbalanced the game because of its overpowered damage and high rate of fire.
That statement of having other kind of guns like the ones from (let's say) TF2 is rather excessive. He was simply suggesting a healing item, which isn't all that bad.
Besides, This game of all other FPS games has been pretty unrealistic. Mutants, Ghosts, Zombies, Definitely all realistic.
Also you know how much crying there willl be?
Armor+health pack+m12s. That means alot of people will cry about it.
Also the game is made that you have 100hp not more. -
>>Pistols:
I use my deagle a lot, in fact when I play Escape Mode I often only use a Deagle and a smoke nade. However I do not switch to my deagle if I run out of ammo, because the draw-out time is too long, and aiming one shot is harder than spraying. Instead I usually just wait for my assault rifle to reload.
>>Realism:
Some say that the heal packs are unrealistic, some say that mutants, zombies and ghosts are unrealistic. I say, science fiction and Fantasy are both not realistic, but the two don't share much more than that in common. Mutants are Si-Fi, Dragons are Fantasy. Low-Gravity is Si-Fi, flying broom sticks are Fantasy. They are different. Healing packs do carry both elements with them, depending on how they are fashioned. Medical guns in ZM that replenish life slowly are Si-Fi, Sandwiches and Potions are Fantasy.
>>Balance:
Healing is simply not balanced in a 3~4 shot kill game. As I have mentioned before, the combination of Armor, Heal, and an M12S is simply the most OP and annoying combination that will ruin game play for everyone. More balances such as you may not use armor and heal at the same time could be fine. -
lol. I'm calm, brobocop. My heart rate doesn't change in the slightest when I anally diembowel someone. Just thought I'd call his dumbass out.RawrJafrikan wrote: »Calm down there brah... but I do agree with your message.
To enlighten him, you might want to explain that alot of people will burst with their primary and then when they are supposed to reload they will switch to deag and wait. Alot of players do this, and you can even watch well known players do this regularly.
But yeah, I do that all the time. I have my Assassin A-3 badge because of pistol kills. Derp. -
' wrote:dvda[;3092209']You run faster with it for one.
Well yes, this is the only reason to use a pistol. I use my pistol to run too when the situation is to risky to run with a knife.' wrote:dvda[;3092209']Deag bullets do more damage then basically any other weapon other then sniper rifles. I've aced All Weps Allowed matches with just a pistol. I've even aced a TD on ship using nothing but my p228.
Well if you really managed to get the ace with an p228, then your enemies where just a bunch of noobs. Try that again against some pros. This is the same as the m700 vs awm thread. People said that the m700 is better but in the end no one could prove it but the one who made a 1 on 1 match amw vs m700 lost.
The pistol is just trash, the only reason to use it is to run or when you are right in front of your enemy and lost all of your bullets but other then it is trash.
Let's say you have a desert eagle and your enemy, someone with equal skills has a m4. You booth look at each other. Who do you think would win?
People rarely use their pistol, many people don't even buy one.' wrote:dvda[;3092209']Furthermore, you're an idiot and your posts NEVER contribute anything to a thread. You are clearly a gutless little puke IRL and your only outlet is to be negative wannabe know-it-all on these forums. If you talked to me to my face the way you do on these forums I would shove my fist up your ass and pull your guts out.
Well... this says allot about your personality... -
BadMonkey666 wrote: »
The pistol is just trash, the only reason to use it is to run or when you are right in front of your enemy and lost all of your bullets but other then it is trash.
Let's say you have a desert eagle and your enemy, someone with equal skills has a m4. You booth look at each other. Who do you think would win?
The only pistol I ever bother with is the Deagle and its variations - all Deagle versions can kill with a single bullet - body shot damage is also very strong.
Your scenario is too vague - there's no context - but since you're anticipating a conclusion, I have to say that the Deagle is a much more aggressive weapon than you are giving it credit for and in a close situation its both aggressive and deadly.
If every opponent had 100 health when you encounter them, maybe its not so good to use a pistol so much, but towards the end of games and when pistol is drawn in a close fight opponents don't tend to have 100 hp. 1 or at a max 2 bullets from Deagle will drop your target.
From my experience, a lot of Deagle kills leave the other guy going ...
"wdf just happened?" -
It depends who you're talking to about how much crying there would be. If anything, it's probably better not to pay attention to the chat box. Make it happier for everyone. This also applies to the forums, so it's probably better to stop feeding trolls and learn to ignore thatL_OVER_BO_Y wrote: »I didnt say it wouldnt be realistic. I just say it would mess up the gamr.
Also you know how much crying there willl be?
Armor+health pack+m12s. That means alot of people will cry about it.
Also the game is made that you have 100hp not more.
A health pack isn't supposed to buff anyone. It's meant to heal. Healing doesn't mean adding health, it only goes up the the cap which appears to be 100. Not that CF would change health or anything, because back in CF 1.0 they had it and now they don't because of all the hacks three years ago. -
Well yes the deagle is not bad at all, I use it a lot in counter strike but it is almost useless in crossfire.
Yes you can easily kill people that have less then 100hp but you could have killed him with your rifle too.
Sometimes one or two shots are enough to kill your enemy, but your assault rifle, and you enemies assault rifle can shot faster then you do with your de.
Well the good thing about the de is that it is accurate, you just point your weapon at your enemy and shot. -
BadMonkey666 wrote: »Well yes the deagle is not bad at all, I use it a lot in counter strike but it is almost useless in crossfire.
Yes you can easily kill people that have less then 100hp but you could have killed him with your rifle too.
Sometimes one or two shots are enough to kill your enemy, but your assault rifle, and you enemies assault rifle can shot faster then you do with your de.
Well the good thing about the de is that it is accurate, you just point your weapon at your enemy and shot.
That's not the point of a side-arm though. It's much faster to pull out your Deagle instead of reloading - that's where it can save you from dying. Running around with a side-arm when you could be using an assault rifle isn't the best idea... -
yes you cant get more then 100hp but will get more then 100hp if you use the health pack you lose 25 and get 25 back so that means you had 125hp in that round.TGEHydralisk wrote: »It depends who you're talking to about how much crying there would be. If anything, it's probably better not to pay attention to the chat box. Make it happier for everyone. This also applies to the forums, so it's probably better to stop feeding trolls and learn to ignore that
A health pack isn't supposed to buff anyone. It's meant to heal. Healing doesn't mean adding health, it only goes up the the cap which appears to be 100. Not that CF would change health or anything, because back in CF 1.0 they had it and now they don't because of all the hacks three years ago.
but it would also be OP. -
I do like the idea of a health pack but why keep suggesting it? All this thread causes is fighting and hate. They clearly said no, why not calmly back down.
There's a lot of pros and cons but it was already decided by the big guys that the cons where over-powering the pros.
And don't but your personal emotions into this matter, think about what everyone wants, not just you. -
FrozenSyther wrote: »I do like the idea of a health pack but why keep suggesting it? All this thread causes is fighting and hate. They clearly said no, why not calmly back down.
There's a lot of pros and cons but it was already decided by the big guys that the cons where over-powering the pros.
And don't but your personal emotions into this matter, think about what everyone wants, not just you.
Frozen, you haven't been here a long time, but let me tell you that before they used to say
No zombie mode, no mutation mode, or anything like that. And behold, it happened.
Nothing is set in stone. Nothing ever will be.
And its not what I want, its just I suggested it. I don't even play this game anymore. I haven't for quite some time. I only go on here to have a good time on the forums and give myself and others a laugh.
http://clan.z8games.com/charstat_cf.aspx?usn=8059393
btw join my clan if you want. -
ManInMotion wrote: »That's not the point of a side-arm though. It's much faster to pull out your Deagle instead of reloading
How often do you run out of ammo? It happens to me like once a week and hen I often have the chance to just hide behind a wall and reload there.ManInMotion wrote: »Running around with a side-arm when you could be using an assault rifle isn't the best idea...
It is when I have to reach a point really fast.
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