Where has the respect gone?
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If we respect BR's/TR's more BR's/TR's will join this game and make this game laggy and you'll see in every room a BR/TR with 200 ping.Don't get it, care to elaborate?
All the high/more experienced players understand each other, so that'll make a good community.
We shouldn't use racism. Even though this game's free they shouldn't play this game.
If you want it shorter, this format of text will come, Baleog. -
[MOD]Polleus wrote: »Start rant:
Whether in-game or in the forums I have noticed that there is a lack of common respect for users/teams. Yes I know, old news is so exciting. Obvious is obvious, etc. etc. etc. But for real, why is there such a disregard for SIMPLE respect of each other? I honestly don't want to hear the, "this game is full of 12-15 year old people, there is no respect". I think I have met plenty of you that can hold a decent amount of respect for other users and you're not all 18. Some people blame the current state of this community on a particular race of people and their troubles. Sure, everyone has their part in this community so they are just as much a part of it as we are.
However, everyone is accountable for their actions. Even a 12-15 year old can decipher the difference between blatant disrespect and common courtesy. I can cite examples from public games in Echo 8. Just sit back and watch the conversations that go on in those rooms every once in a while. "You're bad. Get off" "QQ noob you need to learn to play" "Stop whining you baby. Get good" "You're bad. No, you're bad. I'm the best" There are others that I do not wish to get into, but you all can relate to what can and has been said in such games.
Is this what it has come down to? Arguing amongst each other in public games over who's bad? Over who's better? Over who's smarter? Over who's team can beat another team? Over who can insult someone better than the other person? What happened to common courtesy? Common respect amongst fellow players? Public games used to be about fun and enjoying yourself. Don't get on to me about a race ruining public games. It's not about that.
The forums are just as disrespectful or worse than in-game. Some people just simply have a blatant disrespect for the rules. Don't cite excuses that the Moderators don't enforce the rules. A community should be able to use common sense to know what is right and what is obviously wrong. Moderators shouldn't have to be closing/deleting threads 5,6,7,8 times a day. That's our fault. Even some of you who aren't 12 years old go around spouting off who's bad and who's an idiot and who's this and who's that, causing flame wars and unhealthy arguments.
This community should be about positive growth. Positive doesn't mean insulting someone for suggesting an idea, no matter how good or bad the idea. Encourage them to try again. Positive doesn't mean arguing over POINTLESS debates that do nothing to help this community. Try starting a discussion thread that will lead to healthy discussion about improving this community or ideas that are realistic. Positive doesn't mean starting 100 threads about the problems with this game. Believe me, the management is well aware of the problems without 100 threads to tell them. I'm sure they got it the first time.
Sure, you may say I expect too much of this community. That I give the potential of this community too much credit. Fine. Flame me. Insult me. Call my thread pointless. You will simply prove my points here today. This community won't grow without our help. The GM's and Moderators can't do it by themselves. Sure they can do a big part through enforcement, interaction, etc. but they can't do it alone. Try looking at your own actions on a day-to-day basis. Some of you simply don't care and I suppose this won't apply to you then. All I'm asking is to take a step back and realize that this game is not all about who can't play well or who can. Sure, there is a competitive side of the game and competition is always healthy. But, there should be a certain amount of respect given to each other that will promote growth and take steps forward not backward.
Your sarcastic comments and negativity, if any, will have no effect on me. So feel free to have at it. Like I said before, you will only prove my points here today about the lack of common respect between users in this community.
End rant.
For the same reason god putted humans and not angels in the earth. To use our brain and become from a zero to hero. Hope you get me
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Nicely put i totally understand your point of view sir.WishMunzta wrote: »If you want it shorter, this format of text will come, Baleog.
But again who is in position to ban turks/brazilians?
"Ban BR/Turk" is really pointless.
Cuz of the ping?
Ping cap it, BRs can get less than 120 ping in the miami server, and turks can get 50 ping in the uk server with a good connection.
Because they hack? every country has hackers, they might have a bigger ration or hackers/QQers/glitchers/blockers/kickers, but still i don't see how will they be deprived of the privilege to play, just cuz they were born in a shiitty country. -
I see, but only if they had good internet..Nicely put i totally understand your point of view sir.
But again who is in position to ban turks/brazilians?
"Ban BR/Turk" is really pointless.
Cuz of the ping?
Ping cap it, BRs can get less than 120 ping in the miami server, and turks can get 50 ping in the uk server with a good connection.
Because they hack? every country has hackers, they might have a bigger ration or hackers/QQers/glitchers/blockers/kickers, but still i don't see how will they be deprived of the privilege to play, just cuz they were born in a shiitty country. -
I was like I love this dude but when i saw the shiity country...How can u umm know Turkey is shiity if u didnt even visit Turkey(or Brasil etc.).Nicely put i totally understand your point of view sir.
But again who is in position to ban turks/brazilians?
"Ban BR/Turk" is really pointless.
Cuz of the ping?
Ping cap it, BRs can get less than 120 ping in the miami server, and turks can get 50 ping in the uk server with a good connection.
Because they hack? every country has hackers, they might have a bigger ration or hackers/QQers/glitchers/blockers/kickers, but still i don't see how will they be deprived of the privilege to play, just cuz they were born in a shiitty country. -
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There were alot of Turks last summer i mean 2009 summer and the game was amazingly fun.When jrks came here like u saying ban TR's they always lag etc,Turks started to think they are hated bcuz they are Turk so they wanted to take revenge and shiit.Thats what they told me some of them.They dont respect you bcuz u didnt at first.Now kiddy fk off..Actually Germans,Greeks,PT,Egyptions and Dutch(They always rage and insult) have higher ping,they do hack too,insult everyone,beg for zp.WishMunzta wrote: »If we respect BR's/TR's more BR's/TR's will join this game and make this game laggy and you'll see in every room a BR/TR with 200 ping.
All the high/more experienced players understand each other, so that'll make a good community.
We shouldn't use racism. Even though this game's free they shouldn't play this game.
If you want it shorter, this format of text will come, Baleog. -
Unlucky1130 wrote: »If anyone insulted me or my country(BECAUSE OF A GAME) and i dont know him/her,why would I respect them.
You don't have to respect them, but you have to at least show some courtesy. Why drop to their level and let them know that they are getting to you? The least you could you do is block them, and not flame back. -
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Unlucky1130 wrote: »If anyone insulted me or my country(BECAUSE OF A GAME) and i dont know him/her,why would I respect them.
/d is there for some reason. You won't know him after that pub.
And if the guy keeps whispering you, block user system is useful for that. -
You don't have to respect them, but you have to at least show some courtesy. Why drop to their level and let them know that they are getting to you? The least you could you do is block them, and not flame back.
The problem is they know nothing and never stop.I cant help it.I usually try not to insult but when they repeat it..God nvm -
Unlucky1130 wrote: »There were alot of Turks last summer i mean 2009 summer and the game was amazingly fun.When jrks came here like u saying ban TR's they always lag etc,Turks started to think they are hated bcuz they are Turk so they wanted to take revenge and shiit.Thats what they told me some of them.They dont respect you bcuz u didnt at first.Now kiddy fk off..Actually Germans,Greeks,PT,Egyptions and Dutch(They always rage and insult) have higher ping,they do hack too,insult everyone,beg for zp.
That's a nice insult.
Why am I a jerk?
I did respected them, but they hated me, so I hate them now.
"kiddy fk off" You shouldn't be using this.
mostly Germans hack, insult.
Why should "I" beg for ZP? -
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/d is there for some reason. You won't know him after that pub.
And if the guy keeps whispering you, block user system is useful for that.
Well i dont care if they insult me in game I just try to ignore.When they start insulting my country I just cant control myself and rage.Ppl in forums.Meh.Facepalm old new is exciting etc. -
[MOD]Polleus wrote: »Having a hard time deciphering if you are saying you read it or didn't read it. However, if all you regard it as is a "wall-o-text" when I have broken it into concise paragraphs with meaningful content and questions, then I don't honestly know what to tell you. It was meant to be read and actually thought about. If I misunderstood you, I apologize.
I was proving your point. I still read it. I have read the same thing countless times, though it's usually in nine year-old format. There's not much to think about, disrespect is always unnecessary but it's what everyone is accustomed to, the internet is what it is and... I like it.
Lol, lookit this:
Unlucky1130 wrote: »Well i dont care if they insult me in game I just try to ignore.When they start insulting my country I just cant control myself and rage.Ppl in forums.Meh.Facepalm old new is exciting etc.
That's good, stand up for yourself and the other 3,000 intelligent life-forms in your country. -
Not u that was an example.WishMunzta wrote: »That's a nice insult.
Why am I a jerk?
I did respected them, but they hated me, so I hate them now.
"kiddy fk off" You shouldn't be using this.
mostly Germans hack, insult.
Why should "I" beg for ZP?
Yea yea everyone says that.When i ask a Turk they say everyone disrespect them and they thought everyone hate them bcuz they are Turks(most countries hate Turks bcuz of our history.We used to control the world.)Then they started to defend their country,hate you. -
Im not trying to stand up for my country.I know there are alot Turks ruining the game.But 1 year ago no1 had problems with Turks.It might be ur fault.You hated Turks now they hate you.IF you had a Turkish friend u would understand.ShowNoHope wrote: »I was proving your point. I still read it. I have read the same thing countless times, though it's usually in nine year-old format. There's not much to think about, disrespect is always unnecessary but it's what everyone is accustomed to, the internet is what it is and... I like it.
Lol, lookit this:
That's good, stand up for yourself and the other 3,000 intelligent life-forms in your country. -
[MOD]Polleus wrote: »Start rant:
Whether in-game or in the forums I have noticed that there is a lack of common respect for users/teams. Yes I know, old news is so exciting. Obvious is obvious, etc. etc. etc. But for real, why is there such a disregard for SIMPLE respect of each other? I honestly don't want to hear the, "this game is full of 12-15 year old people, there is no respect". I think I have met plenty of you that can hold a decent amount of respect for other users and you're not all 18. Some people blame the current state of this community on a particular race of people and their troubles. Sure, everyone has their part in this community so they are just as much a part of it as we are.
However, everyone is accountable for their actions. Even a 12-15 year old can decipher the difference between blatant disrespect and common courtesy. I can cite examples from public games in Echo 8. Just sit back and watch the conversations that go on in those rooms every once in a while. "You're bad. Get off" "QQ noob you need to learn to play" "Stop whining you baby. Get good" "You're bad. No, you're bad. I'm the best" There are others that I do not wish to get into, but you all can relate to what can and has been said in such games.
Is this what it has come down to? Arguing amongst each other in public games over who's bad? Over who's better? Over who's smarter? Over who's team can beat another team? Over who can insult someone better than the other person? What happened to common courtesy? Common respect amongst fellow players? Public games used to be about fun and enjoying yourself. Don't get on to me about a race ruining public games. It's not about that.
The forums are just as disrespectful or worse than in-game. Some people just simply have a blatant disrespect for the rules. Don't cite excuses that the Moderators don't enforce the rules. A community should be able to use common sense to know what is right and what is obviously wrong. Moderators shouldn't have to be closing/deleting threads 5,6,7,8 times a day. That's our fault. Even some of you who aren't 12 years old go around spouting off who's bad and who's an idiot and who's this and who's that, causing flame wars and unhealthy arguments.
This community should be about positive growth. Positive doesn't mean insulting someone for suggesting an idea, no matter how good or bad the idea. Encourage them to try again. Positive doesn't mean arguing over POINTLESS debates that do nothing to help this community. Try starting a discussion thread that will lead to healthy discussion about improving this community or ideas that are realistic. Positive doesn't mean starting 100 threads about the problems with this game. Believe me, the management is well aware of the problems without 100 threads to tell them. I'm sure they got it the first time.
Sure, you may say I expect too much of this community. That I give the potential of this community too much credit. Fine. Flame me. Insult me. Call my thread pointless. You will simply prove my points here today. This community won't grow without our help. The GM's and Moderators can't do it by themselves. Sure they can do a big part through enforcement, interaction, etc. but they can't do it alone. Try looking at your own actions on a day-to-day basis. Some of you simply don't care and I suppose this won't apply to you then. All I'm asking is to take a step back and realize that this game is not all about who can't play well or who can. Sure, there is a competitive side of the game and competition is always healthy. But, there should be a certain amount of respect given to each other that will promote growth and take steps forward not backward.
Your sarcastic comments and negativity, if any, will have no effect on me. So feel free to have at it. Like I said before, you will only prove my points here today about the lack of common respect between users in this community.
End rant.
what the hell this is the best thread ever i mean thats right allways u get flamed cause u have a "noob gun" ur u r a noob cause u play with sniper or smg and when u owne someone then he say hakka to u and that suck......so pls all cf players flame not so hard and say "nice shot" instead "u noob suck learn 2 play" or "hakka noob"............and i am 15 and i have respect so nothing about 15 years old guys XD
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I've a turkish friend.Unlucky1130 wrote: »Im not trying to stand up for my country.I know there are alot Turks ruining the game.But 1 year ago no1 had problems with Turks.It might be ur fault.You hated Turks now they hate you.IF you had a Turkish friend u would understand.
He has 70 ping. -
This is to the feuding forumers.
Take it to PM. This thread is mainly for discussion reasons, please don't ruin it with flame posts. Polleus just wants us to know and acknowledge respect and courtesy in game. He never intended the thread to lead to flame, and you know it. So please, out of respect, stop flaming each other. We know you hate each other for specific reasons, but forgiving is a part of life. -
Unlucky1130 wrote: »How can u umm know Turkey is shiity if u didnt even visit Turkey(or Brasil etc.).
Dunno about brasil, but unless you are turkish i know about türkiye more than you know.
Not saying it's shiity, just saying it's not their fault if they are born there, or they look a certain way.
You can't blame a man for something he has no control over.Unlucky1130 wrote: »
Not really respect in that picture. -
Isaac_Clarke wrote: »Dont tell me that mod polleus was chosen to be a mod cause of this thread!!!
This thread was made to generate a discussion. He was chosen because he's the right candidate, and is probably the best candidate as well. He has activity, honour, intelligence, and good ideas for the direction of this community. He's better than most MODs I've seen on other forums and maybe this one. He's a great MOD, don't hate on him. He has a set mind to make this community better. -
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