What's with all the QQ about the M12 or Scar L?
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CookieMunzta wrote: »1. These two particular guns, require 0% skill to use. They're vastly over-powered in many ways.
2. These guns aren't allowed in any of the major tournaments? Care to wonder why that is, exactly?
3. 'Noob' is an insulting way to describe a baddie. Newb is just someone new to the game, they're two completely different things.
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Playing with OP guns doesn't make you improve though, so you'll always be stuck at that noob level.
umm k... whats wrong with that? Has anyone here got a problem with noobs staying at noob level? Umm no?
Edit-Also the reason why playing with OP guns doesn't make you improve is maybe because you don't try? I doubt you can hit hs every time in 1 shot even with an OP gun, so there is obviously scope for improvement -
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1. M12's is a SMG with the power and range of a rifle and has -10 recoil. and with 40 bullets a clip, it won't be that hard to kill 6 ppl with 1 clip which is anything but realistic, specially from mid to long range and definetly with a SMG. Another reason why this is considered a noob gun is because it is not a valid weapon for tournaments.. Meaning all your scout badges and kdr is waste if the m12 is the only gun you can use. In any case, the m12 requires no skill at all.
2. SMG's aren't supposed to kill from long range, they're supposed to be weak in exchange for Rate of Fire. Reason why m12s IS a noob gun is because it has no recoil and it's highly overpowered to be considered a smg.
3. Reason why the Scar Light is considered a noob weapon is basically because of that same format, over powered and high rate of fire with very very little recoil. The scar light is also NOT valid for playing in tournaments so all your soldier badges and kdr you got with it won't count for anything when trying to join a good clan that most likely is part of WOGL or any other tournaments that involves crossfire.
4. Noob and Newb are 2 different things. Noobs are ppl who can't kill unless they have a gun that does the work for them, case in point Scar light and M12. Newbs are ppl that are NEW to the game. -
1. M12's is a SMG with the power and range of a rifle and has -10 recoil. and with 40 bullets a clip, it won't be that hard to kill 6 ppl with 1 clip which is anything but realistic, specially from mid to long range and definetly with a SMG. Another reason why this is considered a noob gun is because it is not a valid weapon for tournaments.. Meaning all your scout badges and kdr is waste if the m12 is the only gun you can use. In any case, the m12 requires no skill at all.
2. SMG's aren't supposed to kill from long range, they're supposed to be weak in exchange for Rate of Fire. Reason why m12s IS a noob gun is because it has no recoil and it's highly overpowered to be considered a smg.
3. Reason why the Scar Light is considered a noob weapon is basically because of that same format, over powered and high rate of fire with very very little recoil. The scar light is also NOT valid for playing in tournaments so all your soldier badges and kdr you got with it won't count for anything when trying to join a good clan that most likely is part of WOGL or any other tournaments that involves crossfire.
4. Noob and Newb are 2 different things. Noobs are ppl who can't kill unless they have a gun that does the work for them, case in point Scar light and M12. Newbs are ppl that are NEW to the game.
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But a real pro would kill the guy with sl or m12
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Yeah no doubt if you lead them to a trap or corner them.. Rather hard to go 1 on 1 full fledge fighting. Fact still remains that the guns arent qualified for any tournys for its characteristics of being over powered and no recoil. What good is a headshot when your enemy is tanking a clip of bullets at you? Most likely the headshot wouldnt even register due to lag and even if you do get the kill you'd prolly only have 1 hp left from the over powered bullets. -
You can only do so much when you're being tanked at 900 mph with 90% of the overpowered bullets hitting you.. I'm not trying to whine, just didnt think they would make a gun that was powerful and had no recoil at the same time... It couldnt really happen in RL.. Since the lack of weight distribution, you should be having a recoil as unpredictable as the AK's and not like a Kriss. Of course, if this happened, alot of ppl would stop using those guns and prolly try and find others.
Every series gun is based on it counterpart.... The scar heavy is heavy, has a bit of recoil but is powerful. Ok so the scar light should be light weight (which is it) should have better control (which it does) and it should have less power (which it doesnt...it has more). The "brother" guns or series guns whatever you wanna call them, should be different and each one should have advantage and disadvantages.
MP5 and MP7 are both SMG's but they trade off.. MP5 has more power but mp7 has more accuracy. K1A has a faster RoF and is a SMG, the K-2 is a rifle with a slower RoF but has a bit more power. With the scar light, it's just an advanced version of the scar heavy.. There's no give-way, there's no disadvantage at all with the scar light which is reason why it's usually called a noob weapon and also why it's not a tourny weapon..
I already talked about the m12. I know it has no series or counter-part to it, but one better way is to treat it like an adv adv xm18 shot gun. It can do considerable damage, but if you stay at a distance, they're one of the more easier ppl to kill.. even tho 80% of your bullets arent registering since they're bein tanked by large clip and overpowered m12 bullets. -
What's this massive argument over? Seriously M12s and scar light are noob full stop. People who say just kill them are obviously trying to make out there pro or just have the better luck. Considering once you even get the chance to aim at a m12s user your dead. Scar light on the other hand is a little less difficult. Anyways there noob that's it. So noobs who use it GTFO
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10 perce right i agree with you the ppl who say m12s or scar l noobs r noobs themselves coz thy cnt kill with these guns themselves..m12s has spraying pattren but it has very low power so i can say ak47 as noob gun cozit is most powrfull. so actually no gun is noob some r good and some r bad thats simple!!Now, i've heard this from loads of people in the forums saying or something similar to that 'guns all depend on the player.' Well, if they are good with the m12 or the scar light, shouldn't they have the right to use that gun. So really, the people who usually use these quotes are really hypocritical, as they tell one thing, yet they shun these particular guns.
Furthermore, if you really think that these guns are nooby, go talk to the z8games about removing these weapons(!) At the end of the day, they were the the game developers, they put these guns for the players to use.
If the m12 is so noobie, why is it that when a player gets killed by another player using the m12, they shout 'noob.' isn't a noob someone who is new to a game? Shouldn't that mean that you as a veteran player be able to dispatch them with only minimal effort as they are only new players to the game who doesn't know how to play? So what's with all the complaining?
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